Name people from history that you despise

[Nak Nak]

Thomas Edison.

I sincerely hope he went to hell when he died.


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Karl Marx. Julius Caesar. Napoleon. Old Testament God. Oliver Cromwell. King Edward I. Ares. Zeus. Queen Victoria. Beethoven. Nostradamus. Elliott Smith. Gnr. Monty. Goering. Stalin. Diocletian. Lyndon Johnson. (I don't know Andrew Jackson, I don't like his name though!)

[Kinbote]

Andrew Jackson. Karl Marx. Julius Caesar. Lyndon Johnson. Diocletian. Oliver Cromwell.

Lots more, I'm sure.

(and Thomas Edison)

[Nak Nak]

Originally posted by Kinbote
Andrew Jackson. Karl Marx. Julius Caesar. Lyndon Johnson. Diocletian. Oliver Cromwell.

Lots more, I'm sure.

You missed out Thomas Edison.

[Squirrel]

I dunno. Henry Ford?

What did Thomas Edison do?

[Nak Nak]

Originally posted by Squirrel
What did Thomas Edison do?

He did nothing.

[Kinbote]

Originally posted by Nak Nak
You missed out Thomas Edison.

And you did Andrew Jackson, Karl Marx, Julius Caesar, Lyndon Johnson, Diocletian, and Oliver Cromwell.

[Nak Nak]

Well, here's an insight into his character:
After Tesla described the nature of the benefits from his proposed modifications, Edison offered him US$50,000 if they were successfully completed. Tesla worked nearly a year to redesign them and gave the Edison company several enormously profitable new patents in the process. When Tesla inquired about the $50,000, Edison replied to him, "Tesla, you don't understand our American humor," and reneged on his promise. Edison reportedly offered to raise Tesla's salary by $10 per week as a compromise - at which rate it would have taken almost 100 years to earn the money Edison had originally promised. Tesla resigned on the spot.

[Nak Nak]

Originally posted by Kinbote
And you did Andrew Jackson, Karl Marx, Julius Caesar, Lyndon Johnson, Diocletian, and Oliver Cromwell.
Ok, I'll amend that because I hate all those bastards too!

[Kinbote]

Originally posted by Nak Nak
Ok, I'll amend that because I hate all those bastards too!

Fair's fair.

[Noshus Klam]

In no order,

Joseph Stalin
Nikita Krushchev
Adolf Hitler
Joseph Goebbels
Magda Goebbels
Karl Marx
Woodrow Wilson
Iwane Matsui
Muhammad
Jesse Jackson
Al Sharpton
Joe McCarthy
Yasser Arafat
Fidel Castro
Joseph Smith
Osama Bin Laden
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Saddam Hussein



more to come later.

[Jackal]

I got C's in history class.

Liars
People who got credit for things they didn't do.
People who made others suffer.
Ones that made bad choices resulting in horrible things for the future.
The Chinese ruler that took over Tibet just because he could.

[Herr Lipp]

Whats the point in despising dead people? theres plenty of despising to go around the living, ya hear.

P.S. Oliver Cromwell, though a boring fucker, was a legend. I havent ever heard Ted being anti-Royal though, so he's not hypocritical in hating him, he may have personal reasons, an aversion to round hats perhaps.

Oh, Marilyn Monroe pisses me off. Lose some weight you fat bitch, oh yeah you cant, you're dead.

[Kinbote]

P.S. Oliver Cromwell, though a boring fucker, was a legend. I havent ever heard Ted being anti-Royal though, so he's not hypocritical in hating him, he may have personal reasons, an aversion to round hats perhaps.


He appropriated land and money from some relations of mine.

[Herr Lipp]

How smashing it is that you have some information regarding your ancestry that far in the past. My aunty's research can only get as far back as the late 1800s. She did find out however, that my Great Grandad survived World War I and got a Victory medal, booya! :cool:

[Kinbote]

Yeah, we have it back into the 1400's. Family crest and everything: swans and a blue stripe, I believe. And esteemed ancestors - some kind of baron, and an archbishop of Canterbury. How the mighty fall.

[El Loto]

George Bush Snr
George.W.Bush
Margaret Thatcher
Mark Thatcher
Norman Lamont
Aberdeen Council
Ted Heath
Yigal Amir

I'll think of some more

[sleepy sinner]

Old Testament God.

What's better about new testament God? :)

[Nak Nak]

What's better about new testament God? :)

Not much now that I think about it!

[Herr Lipp]

Yeah, we have it back into the 1400's. Family crest and everything: swans and a blue stripe, I believe. And esteemed ancestors - some kind of baron, and an archbishop of Canterbury. How the mighty fall.

That's really cool. Your ancestors probably bullied peasants :yes:

[Kinbote]

We were also prominent in colonial Boston, and in 19th and early 20th Ohio and national politics, or so I've been told. Bunch of sea captains, too. It's nice to think of as I lay about being a layabout nogoodnik.

[Herr Lipp]

Curse my probably illiterate ancestors for not telling their kids about their history! I'm impressed by your knowledge of your family tree, but my Aunty, an amateur geneologist (spelling?) would be really impressed.

My Grandad ran away at 14 and joined the Circus. It's not the Archbishop of Canterbury, but it's still hella cool!

[Herr Lipp]

George Bush senior
King Henry VIII


Oh shut up Rosie, Henry was a fucking legend if there ever was one. No one else in Europe at the time had the balls to give the Pope the finger. And his salute to the Pope has lasted to this day, almost 500 years Catholic free, brrap. (apart from a little spell with Bloody Mary, but she's a woman so she didnt know what she was doing :) )

[Kinbote]

He also looked great in a codpiece!

[Herr Lipp]

damn right! and how many men out there have wanted to behead their ex-wives and not had the chance? the man's a trendsetter :D

[kendra]

Andrew Jackson is one guy I remember highly offending me, even from reading the sparse paragraphs in my history book.

[kendra]

My Grandad ran away at 14 and joined the Circus. It's not the Archbishop of Canterbury, but it's still hella cool!

haha. That's fun. My best friend's family were a bunch of horse thieves. I doubt my family was half as exciting.

[Herr Lipp]

Ha Ha. Horse and cattle thieving was practically an industry in olden American days wasnt it? chuckle.

[kendra]

That and fraternizing with the natives.

[Herr Lipp]

Have you heard of "The Pig War". That makes me laugh. It's on wikipedia if you havent.

[kendra]

Poor lil bacon:

"It is so called because the war was triggered by a pig and the only casualty was said pig." (wikipedia)

[Herr Lipp]

Rose: He just really wanted, neigh, needed a male heir hence the divorcings. I dunno why he killed some of them, he's just a bit funky.
He seemed arrogant sure, but the best kings and queens are.

[Kinbote]

When I was a wee lad I could recite all the English kings in order from Egbert on. My favorite, and the best as far as I'm concerned, was the tenth century fellow whose name escapes me now, Edgar maybe, or Ethel-something, who the fuck knows, but anyway, he apparently had some bizarre disorder that made it impossible to digest solids, so he'd generally just chew his food, swallow the juices, and spit out the remains.

[Nak Nak]

When I was a wee lad I could recite all the English kings in order from Egbert on. My favorite, and the best as far as I'm concerned, was the tenth century fellow whose name escapes me now, Edgar maybe, or Ethel-something, who the fuck knows, but anyway, he apparently had some bizarre disorder that made it impossible to digest solids, so he'd generally just chew his food, swallow the juices, and spit out the remains.


Awesome!

[Kinbote]

You'll be happy to know that I looked it up and it was King Edred, 946-954.

[kendra]

Sounds like a fad diet to me. Anyone here into marketing..?

[Herr Lipp]

When I was a wee lad I could recite all the English kings in order from Egbert on.

You take being an anorak to new levels!

I cant even remember all of the Houses! (Stuarts, Windsors blah blah).

[Kinbote]

Isn't an anorak some kind of sweater or coat or something?

I can't do it any longer. I jumble up the order between Egbert and Alfred, then I'm lost from Alfred to Canute, and then I lose track from Edward IV to Henry VIII. So, like, sorry, etc.

[Herr Lipp]

Yeah that's a literal anorak, but it has an alternate meaning which I'm sure is in the dictionary. It's like a "geek" but less offensive, like you'd call a Trainspotter an anorak :D

[Kinbote]

I really like trains. Though really, I prefer stations and system maps to the trains themselves.

[Herr Lipp]

Oh yes, I remember the thread from a while back.

I think that's cool :yes: whatever floats your boat. Youre obviously a clever cat who probably needs more stimulation than most. I'm not dumb, but I'm happy sitting in a chair looking perplexed for hours on end to be honest.

[Kinbote]

Sigh!

[Herr Lipp]

Whenever I use The Tube, I swell up with national pride :D I really should look into those trips into the old Underground stations that you can go on, the ones that date back to WW2 time, and are still in original decor and stuff.

[ramblingrose]

Norman, Plantagenet, Lancaster, York, Tudor, Stuart, Hugenot, Windsor.

My mum gave me this cheapo book about royal scandals, it's brilliant! Debauchery and mayhem, the current royals are rubbish value for money scandal-wise.
Crap royal fact - King Athelstan had his palace near my mum's house and my primary school was named after him.

[Herr Lipp]

Ted's knowledge goes further back than 1066 though, yo Ciona, you know what I mean by anorak dont you?

And yes, the Royals wouldnt be the Royals without some scandals every now and then.

[Kinbote]

Whenever I use The Tube, I swell up with national pride :D I really should look into those trips into the old Underground stations that you can go on, the ones that date back to WW2 time, and are still in original decor and stuff.

I feel the same way riding the subway in Boston - it was America's first subway, you know. The transit authority never stops reminding us of this fact, no doubt to distract everyone from the frequent, never-explained, never-acknowledged delays, the filthy stations and never-functioning escalators, and the fact that the trains stop running at quarter to one, with no replacement bus service (their explanation is that they don't want to encourage drunkeness and drunks and such, who of course are the only people who ever want to ride public transport late at night - and anyway, so much better to have them drive home).

South Station, from the outside:

[Kinbote]

And from the inside:

[Herr Lipp]

how quaint.

[Kinbote]

Not as quaint as Boylston station, which I'm pretty sure hasn't been fixed up at all since 1897.

[Herr Lipp]

The Elephant & Castle Underground Station circa 1940 (The Blitz, hence the squatters).

http://www.vam.ac.uk/images/image/5012-large.jpg

[Kinbote]

I remember seeing in my youth a similar sort of picture and finding it particularly fascinating because people were sleeping on the tracks as well as the platform.

I forget which Tube station it was, but one of them I was once in, and the curved walls made me, suddenly and passingly, but very strongly, queasy and paranoid. It was a strange moment.

[Herr Lipp]

Yes the smaller ones have that effect. One time I was waiting to come home, forget why I was in London but anyway.... I heard the train approaching from deep in the tunnel, a very noticable noise. All of a sudden I had a strange feeling of paranoia consume me, and I was sure that at the peak of the escalating noise, I was going to be murdered. Odd, I know, as there were but a few stragglers on the platforms, but still, very very strange.

I dont understand how people can't use Tubes/Subways though. They're very easy.

[Kinbote]

I know! The only trouble one might have on a complicated system like London or New York or Paris is the lengthy walk you might need to take changing lines sometimes - but that shouldn't be any trouble unless you're infirm. Otherwise you just need to be literate and modestly capable of abstract thought.

[Herr Lipp]

ho ho.

The only thing that causes me to crank up the grey-matter is choosing which ticket to buy, as I don't to spend £5 on a TravelCard (go anywhere unlimited times card) when i can get away with spending £3.50 on tickets. (I'm tight like that)

[Kinbote]

That's what's really cool about New York's subway - runs 24 hours, goes everywhere you could possibly want to go, and you can go anywhere in the system for a single two dollar fare.

[Herr Lipp]

shit, that's pretty cool. and they have armed police there! :hoot:

[Kinbote]

And bomb-sniffing dogs, and uniformed soldiers. Of course, those Londoners know a thing or two about shooting folks in the subway.

[Herr Lipp]

Another piece of police tomfoolery :no:

Have you stayed up all night?

[Kinbote]

No, I got up very early. I was rather ill last night, and got my whole cycle all twisted up.

[Herr Lipp]

I see. Early worm catches the bird and all that.

[Kinbote]

I find it all rather disconcerting. I went out for a coffee and some hash browns at McDonald's and the angle of the sunlight was very confusing.

[revgoozen]

i dispise irving kristol.