What do you care about ?

[ramblingrose]

What's important to you? I mean in the sense of things you consider when casting a vote, for example. I came up with these so far.

- Education
- Healthcare
- Environment
- Housing
- Welfare system
- Economy
- Let's just say "defence"


There's a zillion others I've forgotten and to be honest I know fuck all about the economy so I personally don't consider that much.

I've started this badly but I thought it could develop into a fairly interesting thread?

[Fab]

I care a lot about:

disasters,
fires,
floods,
killer bees
the NASA shuttle falling in the sea ,
starvation and the food that Live Aid bought,
disease, baby rock,

the gamblers,
the pushers,
the geeks
the smack,
crack,
whack that hits the street,
the welfare of all the boys and girls,
about you people cause i'm out to save the world

about the army navy air f,orce and marines,
about the NY, SF and LAPD
about you people,
about your guns,
about the wars you're fighting, gee that looks like fun

the Garbage Pail Kids,
Transformers cause there's more than meets the eye
the little things, the bigger things we top
about you people yeah you bet we care a lot




:( Sorry, I couldn't resist and it's a fun song. I'll give a serious answer when it's tomorrow...

[Kinbote]

- Antipathy toward farm subsidies
- Antipathy toward pork barrel spending
- Antipathy toward deficits
- Antipathy toward taxes
- Antipathy toward burdensome regulation
- Antipathy toward the ever-mounting encroachment of government on personal freedoms.

[Nak Nak]

- Education
- Technological research
- Healthcare
- Environment
- Housing
- Welfare system
- Economy

[El Loto]

Welfare System
Healthcare
Education
Economy
Housing
Environment

[Six Ways]

Destroying religion
Outlawing gays
Shooting cripples (in the face)
Child labour
Enforced euthanasia above 70
No Jews
Neon signs for cross-eyed kids
All women who rate more than a 4 and are between 16 and 40 restricted to only brazilian
More public toilets

[Squirrel]

Mostly stuff people have already said... protecting civil liberties, good free healthcare, decent public transport, bike lanes everywhere like they have in Holland.... I am such a hippy. :O

Oh and secularism as well please. And low house prices. And get rid of that law that lets corporations be legally defined as people.

[kendra]

- Healthcare (if it strikes close to home you give a fuck about it, I suppose)
- Environment
- Education
- "Social issues" not contained in the above, such as personal freedoms etc etc
- Promoting secularity. Always rubs me the wrong way when a politician starts talking to God in front of everyone.

[Jackal]

Education
healthcare
safety/police/firedept.
enviroment
spending
social security
crime law

[Kinbote]

Not that I'm fond of public displays of belief and all, but how is promoting secularism different from promoting religion?

[kendra]

Because we're better than they are. No I see what you mean, it's kind of shitty, but it's less shitty than religion. Well I guess that's what I said in the first sentence. :\

[Spaced]

Public apathy at anything not directly challenging their financial security
The deliberate manipulation of said apathy by politicians
The lack of informed public debate and the prevention of dissent
The lack of political accountability/responsibility
The lack of effective opposition to the political status quo
The re-emergence of nationalsim and xenophobia
The re-emergence of religious fundamentalism and it's political interference

[Squirrel]

Not that I'm fond of public displays of belief and all, but how is promoting secularism different from promoting religion?

I'm fine with public displays of faith, it's just like... when countries start invading each other because their leaders think god is telling them to, you know? Or when people are looking at the validity of laws based on whether the Bible approves of them or not....

[Kinbote]

I don't think that's any more or less valid a motive to invade because of god than "because we can," "because we want to," "because they have stuff we want," etc.; nor do I think examining the Bible as a law source any more or less valid than examining one's brain. Both ways presume, I think, a bit too much infallibility for themselves. And I think both ways one is picking method based on desired outcome, rather than for the method itself.

[Six Ways]

I don't think that's any more or less valid a motive to invade because of god than "because we can," "because we want to," "because they have stuff we want," etc.; nor do I think examining the Bible as a law source any more or less valid than examining one's brain. Both ways presume, I think, a bit too much infallibility for themselves. And I think both ways one is picking method based on desired outcome, rather than for the method itself.

I don't think anyone is supporting going to war because one can...that's obviously wrong too, and I think there's a lot of religion goes into Gee Dubyahs decisions on such matters anyway.

And I think you're missing the point with the Bible law thingy...taking advice from a Bible is inherently flawed. Using one's brain to sort laws out is only limited by the standard of the brain used in working it out. It's not inherently idiotic, it just tends to be idiots who get to make the laws for some reason.

[Kinbote]

I don't know, I initially supported the war because I thought I'd get a kick out of watching it on TV. I did, but it's really gotten beyond boring now.

Anyway. All's I'm saying is that, despite being a secularist myself, I find the aggressive pushing of secularism just as blech as the aggressive pushing of religion. "You catch more flies with honey" and all that.

[Herr Lipp]

Right now, I care about money....weed.....and vocabulary. option c has suffered since option b came to the the furore. option a has also suffered too! damn you option b, damn you.

[Squirrel]

Anyway. All's I'm saying is that, despite being a secularist myself, I find the aggressive pushing of secularism just as blech as the aggressive pushing of religion. "You catch more flies with honey" and all that.

That's cool. I was just saying it's something I believe in.

[Herr Lipp]

I don't know, I initially supported the war because I thought I'd get a kick out of watching it on TV. I did, but it's really gotten beyond boring now

Ogrish would lose 40% of it's size if you took out the Iraq related media!

[El Loto]

We had a debate in Modern Studies today. "This house would abolish private health care". I was on the For side and even though our argument was not presented as well as the Against team we still got the vote. And in the 2nd debate we voted unanimously that the NHS is doing a good job, no thanks to one the best presentations ever. The guy that spoke was on fire.

[Nak Nak]

We had a debate in Modern Studies today. "This house would abolish private health care". I was on the For side and even though our argument was not presented as well as the Against team we still got the vote. And in the 2nd debate we voted unanimously that the NHS is doing a good job, no thanks to one the best presentations ever. The guy that spoke was on fire.

Who spoke?

[El Loto]

Who spoke?

Struan was our speaker. He wasn't that good but we still one. The 2nd debate speaker was Gordon from 5th year. Not sure if you ken him.

[Six Ways]

How has everybody ignored the fact that I want neon signs for cross-eyed kids and child labour?

[Fab]

You didn't say you wanted it, you just said you cared about it, but failed to mention in what way.

[Herr Lipp]

I want the right for parents to smack their children to be kept safe for at least another 25 years. I got some serious smackage built up I'd like to take out on some vulnerable people heh heh.