The Lib Dems are the new Tories

[El Loto]

ROFL!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4635916.stm) :pinkeleph

[Nak Nak]

Originally posted by El Loto
ROFL!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4635916.stm) :pinkeleph

[XenonDreams]

quick: what's a rent boy?

male (adult) prostitute? or boy sex slave? or what? eh? we don't have that term in the US.

[Telegram Sam]

Lucas and Walliams couldn't make it up

[El Loto]

Originally posted by XenonDreams
quick: what's a rent boy?

male (adult) prostitute? or boy sex slave? or what? eh? we don't have that term in the US.

The guy was 21 I think, so it must be a broad term. There are supposed to be Romanian rent boys in Aberdeen.

Now we can prove that the Lib Dems actually have a life. Hew shouldn't be forced to take a backseat in the party though. It is his own life.

[ramblingrose]

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO NOW?:(

[El Loto]

Originally posted by ramblingrose
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO NOW?:(

HA HA. I bet Menzies Campbell is a pimp too. Come over to Labour. You know you want to.

[ramblingrose]

I don't care about their sex lives, but they're going to go all Tory I just know it. I might just vote for random independents in future. I don't like Labour, you'll have to tempt me with kittens and lollipops.

[El Loto]

Originally posted by ramblingrose
I don't care about their sex lives, but they're going to go all Tory I just know it. I might just vote for random independents in future. I don't like Labour, you'll have to tempt me with kittens and lollipops.

We have Ruth Kelly. Do you like young boy-types? e.g Ruth Kelly. You could teach it to draw or hey even run a department properly.

[ramblingrose]

tempting as Ruth Kelly is, she isn't a kitten or a lollipop. Try again!

[El Loto]

What about John Prescott.

I have a new slogan for Simon Hughes

"Simon Hughes gets it no matter what"

[ramblingrose]

John Prescott looks a bit like an ugly puppy I suppose. Have you seen Puggles? they are a cross between a beagle and a pug and they are very cute. My friend sent me a photograph of Jake Gyllenhaal holding one and I almost died of like. I like Tony Benn but Labour were mean to him. Hillary Benn is my MP, he sent me a letter about the war once.

[El Loto]

Originally posted by ramblingrose
John Prescott looks a bit like an ugly puppy I suppose. Have you seen Puggles? they are a cross between a beagle and a pug and they are very cute. My friend sent me a photograph of Jake Gyllenhaal holding one and I almost died of like. I like Tony Benn but Labour were mean to him. Hillary Benn is my MP, he sent me a letter about the war once.


I have both Tony and Hilary Benn's autographs. My Uncle was travelling to London on the train many years ago and he shared a compartment with Tony Benn. When my Uncle got on the train he was a liberal and when he stepped off at London he was, and still is, a Labour supporter.
Aye Puggles are quite cute. Shame about Pugs.
John Prescott is watching you

http://www.puppydogweb.com/gallery/pugs/pug_emily.jpg

[Nak Nak]

Euan, you are a socialist are you not?

[ramblingrose]

Originally posted by El Loto
John Prescott is watching you

http://www.puppydogweb.com/gallery/pugs/pug_emily.jpg

If only Prezza were that cute. Why did he think he could race nine-year-olds?

Even though Tony Benn is about 400, I still would.

[El Loto]

Originally posted by Nak Nak
Euan, you are a socialist are you not?

I believe in the welfare state yes. I would say I lean to the left.

[El Loto]

Originally posted by ramblingrose
If only Prezza were that cute. Why did he think he could race nine-year-olds?

Even though Tony Benn is about 400, I still would.

Maggie is about 432,423,562,168,762 and I would never even allow myself to think about it.

[ramblingrose]

Originally posted by El Loto
Maggie is about 432,423,562,168,762 and I would never even allow myself to think about it.

Now you've made me think about it.

[Nak Nak]

Originally posted by El Loto
I believe in the welfare state yes. I would say I lean to the left.

So why're you supporting a centrist party?

[El Loto]

Originally posted by Nak Nak
So why're you supporting a centrist party?

Where did you get that notion from? You know I'm Labour through and through. I'm slagging off your no-good fence-sitting organisation.

[ramblingrose]

Is Craig a LibDem too?

[Nak Nak]

Originally posted by El Loto
Where did you get that notion from? You know I'm Labour through and through. I'm slagging off your no-good fence-sitting organisation.

I was talking about new labour!

[Nak Nak]

Originally posted by ramblingrose
Is Craig a LibDem too?

Yep.

[ramblingrose]

Hurray! I'm not alone. Although I did tell them I wouldn't be renewing my membership after the Charlie K debacle.

[Nak Nak]

Originally posted by ramblingrose
Hurray! I'm not alone. Although I did tell them I wouldn't be renewing my membership after the Charlie K debacle.

I was furious.

[ramblingrose]

I still am a bit. And I haven't a clue what to do now, I quite like Sir Ming but the rest of them seem like a lot of backstabbing clowns who will take the party to hell in a handcart made of reclaimed timber.

[Nak Nak]

Originally posted by ramblingrose
I still am a bit. And I haven't a clue what to do now, I quite like Sir Ming but the rest of them seem like a lot of backstabbing clowns who will take the party to hell in a handcart made of reclaimed timber.

So true, I don't have even half the amount of respect for those leeches as I had for Charlie. I might be voting green or looking at independent options for my first ever vote!

[ramblingrose]

On occasion me and my mother have voted for the most bonkers independent when we haven't known what else to do. It's so depressing though, I've only ever cast two votes that I truly believed in, and the motherfuckers let me down.

[ramblingrose]

ps my ma has voted Green whenever she's had the chance because "they're all dickheads but these are nice dickheads and they won't win." She's tres apolitical but I think she's onto something there.

[Nak Nak]

Originally posted by ramblingrose
ps my ma has voted Green whenever she's had the chance because "they're all dickheads but these are nice dickheads and they won't win." She's tres apolitical but I think she's onto something there.

that's my rationale.

I think i'd vote labour if the tories were knocking on the door, though.

[ramblingrose]

That's what I did in 2001. I hate tactical voting though, one of the things I loved about the LibDems was the whole proportional representation thing. Like my dad says, everyone should be able to cast the vote they want and not worry about tactical voting.

[ramblingrose]

I've just realised I have voted in three general elections - how OLD?????

[Nak Nak]

I only just became eligible to vote!

[ramblingrose]

I have greater wisdom and life experience, or something.

[El Loto]

Originally posted by Nak Nak
I was talking about new labour!

New Labour still has leftist policy. Although I would prefer them to be less central. They had to change or else we would have Tories governments for a gazillion years.

[ramblingrose]

New Labour, New Danger! Or, as I prefer to put it, New Set Of Uncaring Lying Capitalist Bastards! "Things can only get better" indeed...not in the NHS you set of wankers.

sorry, but it hurt me very deeply, idealistic 19-year-old that I was. Where is this brave new world you promised, Tony?

[El Loto]

Originally posted by ramblingrose
New Labour, New Danger! Or, as I prefer to put it, New Set Of Uncaring Lying Capitalist Bastards! "Things can only get better" indeed...not in the NHS you set of wankers.

sorry, but it hurt me very deeply, idealistic 19-year-old that I was. Where is this brave new world you promised, Tony?

The NHS would never make a profit though. I think the NHS is a national treasure. From your point of view, what needs to be done. Lets get some inside info.

[ramblingrose]

Get rid of the star ratings. Get rid of the meaningless targets, and the (in my opinion) ludicrous concept of "patient choice". You shouldn't have to "choose" the best hospital, they should all be good. Stop contracting out services, eg cleaning, catering, and then maybe people will have a pride in their work and feel valued by the organisation again. Patients would benefit hugely from that and they're what it's all supposed to be about.

[El Loto]

Originally posted by ramblingrose
Get rid of the star ratings. Get rid of the meaningless targets, and the (in my opinion) ludicrous concept of "patient choice". You shouldn't have to "choose" the best hospital, they should all be good. Stop contracting out services, eg cleaning, catering, and then maybe people will have a pride in their work and feel valued by the organisation again. Patients would benefit hugely from that and they're what it's all supposed to be about.

Aye I don't like the idea that successful hospitals are rewarded. It increases disparity and wrecks morale. Contracting is bad as the NHS has no real control over how it is run.

[ramblingrose]

It's falling to bits whatever anybody says. Five years ago senior staff would talk to you about all the different ways your career could progress, now they just tell you to get out while you can.

[El Loto]

Originally posted by ramblingrose
It's falling to bits whatever anybody says. Five years ago senior staff would talk to you about all the different ways your career could progress, now they just tell you to get out while you can.

Have you ever considered joining a private trust?

[ramblingrose]

I don't really fancy it, I don't know anything about the private sector to be honest. there is a big Nuffield hospital just across the road from mine but I haven't a clue what they do there, I just imagine you get yelled at by rich old men who've had their ingrowing toenails removed.
I have to treat private patients where I work, but I don't get paid for that despite the doctors being on their crazy private rate for those procedures, which peeves me a bit.
I would consider working in a private nursing home but I did my student placement in a BUPA one and the standard of care was frigging atrocious, so I'd rather not.

[El Loto]

Aye consultants make some sweet money when they do work for the private sector. I think its disgusting actually. My mother, the phamracist, told me when I was 5: "Euan, never go into the medical profession". I've steered clear. My ex is going to Cambridge to do Medicine. Nutter

[ramblingrose]

Originally posted by El Loto
My ex is going to Cambridge to do Medicine. Nutter

I agree, unless she's a heartless sort in which case she should make lots of money.
If you want to help people, don't be a doctor.

[El Loto]

Originally posted by ramblingrose
I agree, unless she's a heartless sort in which case she should make lots of money.
If you want to help people, don't be a doctor.

She might do it becaus eshe can. Brains n'all. LOL at 2nd line. If you want to help people draw away from society or run a burger van.

[ramblingrose]

I'd quite like to go into funeral directing, people will always die. And it's helpful.

[El Loto]

Originally posted by ramblingrose
I'd quite like to go into funeral directing, people will always die. And it's helpful.

Are you being serious? I have no clue about what I want to do. Become a director in the NHS. I should become a hermit to be thruthful or live with these hobos in the forest 2 miles from my house.

[ramblingrose]

I am actually:-o But my plan is to get married while I'm in America and have babies while my rugged outdoorsy/Jewish intellectual husband provides for me.

[El Loto]

Originally posted by ramblingrose
I am actually:-o But my plan is to get married while I'm in America and have babies while my rugged outdoorsy/Jewish intellectual husband provides for me.

Become Amish. The simple life no hassle. Or go join the Mennonites.

[ramblingrose]

I don't like the outfits.

[El Loto]

You could be sultan of style as amish. Why would you want an intellectual Jew as a husband?

[ramblingrose]

I don't know really, it's based on my liking of Jonathan Safran Foer. And I'd like a novelty husband, I think it would be boring to marry someone too similar to me.

[El Loto]

I don't know really, it's based on my liking of Jonathan Safran Foer. And I'd like a novelty husband, I think it would be boring to marry someone too similar to me.

But when does the novelty wear off?