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01-08-2006, 08:25 PM
THE cost of the Iraq war could top $US2 trillion ($A2.65 trillion) after factoring in long-term health care for wounded US veterans, rebuilding a worn-down military and accounting for other unforeseen bills and economic losses, according to a new analysis.
The estimate by Nobel Prize-winning Columbia University economist Joseph Stiglitz and Harvard lecturer Linda Bilmes far exceeds projections made by the Bush Administration.
The figure is more than four times what the war was expected to cost taking in this year — about $US500 billion, according to congressional budget data.
The new study is billed as a detailed analysis not only of the potential costs of sustaining the operation in Iraq for at least several more years, but also the expenses likely to be incurred by American taxpayers long after US troops withdraw. The Government will have costly obligations to a new class of veterans, be forced to make new investments in stressed military ranks thinned by multiple tours of duty, and withstand the enduring impact of the war on the nation's overall financial outlook.
For example, the study attributes a portion of the increase in oil prices to instability in the Middle East caused by the 2003 invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein and sparked a bloody insurgency.
It estimates that the shock to the oil industry has already added at least $US25 billion to the price tag of the conflict.
The analysis also attempts to account for the war's impact on the ballooning federal deficit, its ripple effects on overall economic growth and investment, and losses in productivity.
"There are quite a few things that are not being captured in the budgetary numbers" presented by the Government, said Dr Stiglitz, who received the Nobel Prize in Economics in 2001. "When you add up all of those numbers, it increases substantially. I think $2 trillion is conservative."
The findings were to be presented yesterday at a conference of economists and social scientists in Boston.
The authors said their predictions were largely based on previous data — including from past conflicts — compiled by Government agencies, including the Pentagon, the Department of Veterans Affairs and the Congressional Budget Office.
For the purposes of their study, Dr Stiglitz and Dr Bilmes assumed the US mission in Iraq would last until 2010, but with a steadily declining number of US troops each year.

Money well spent:rolleyes:

Nak Nak
01-08-2006, 08:55 PM
Stupid sentimental liberal propaganda. What else would that money be used for? The education system, health care? Grow up!

Kinbote
01-09-2006, 12:51 AM
Oh, whatever. Fuckers'd've just blown it on farm subsidies or bridges to uninhabited islands anyway.

Herr Lipp
01-09-2006, 05:39 AM
Britains spent a fat wedge on the war too. Meh, gives the Marines some shooting practice I suppose!

Saw a programme on the war last night. A stupid fucking dickhead American bomber blew up a convoy of American soldiers, Kurds (fighting on our side) and British journalists after an airstrike was called in by the soldiers. Dumb fucks. America's so fucking gung-ho about bombings (that's not warfare in my opinion) that they see atrocities like that as accountable. Stop being such pussies and get on the ground and fight like the dogs you are!

Noshus Klam
01-09-2006, 11:01 AM
Wait? Wars cost money? Who whould've thought?

Don't worry, we'll take their oil after we're done and make most of the money back.

Blue River
01-13-2006, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Nak Nak
Stupid sentimental liberal propaganda. What else would that money be used for? The education system, health care? Grow up!

I suppose you, coming from Scotland, pay for your own education and health care?

Maybe you do, but what about all the people who rely on the government to provide these basic services in developed countries. I'm sure bombing the shit out of a country in a war which was based entirely on lies is a much better idea.

Originally posted by ..i..
Don't worry, we'll take their oil after we're done and make most of the money back.

Murder and Stealing...how civilised.


Go on, call me a liberal. At least I have morals.

Herr Lipp
01-13-2006, 10:23 AM
Craig don't pay for fuck all. He's still a social sponge. Education and the Health Service is free in Britain, paid for by taxes.

Narcissistic Nihilist
01-13-2006, 10:31 AM
2 TRILLION?

Wow, looks like the Chelski squad have competition for the biggest waste of money ever.

Herr Lipp
01-13-2006, 10:38 AM
ha ha. but factually incorrect.

Blue River
01-13-2006, 10:39 AM
Which bit?

Herr Lipp
01-13-2006, 11:32 AM
Chelsea have spent a few million on last couple of years. But when you take into account a) teh silverwear that's been won b) the fact that all Premiership clubs wage bills are high and c) Chelsea received the biggest shirt sponsorship deal in UK history from Siemens, AND a big deal from Nike it's really not a waste of money at all. In fact it's good business sense.

Blue River
01-13-2006, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Herr Lipp
Chelsea have spent a few million on last couple of years. But when you take into account a) teh silverwear that's been won b) the fact that all Premiership clubs wage bills are high and c) Chelsea received the biggest shirt sponsorship deal in UK history from Siemens, AND a big deal from Nike it's really not a waste of money at all. In fact it's good business sense.

But it's not exactly the same. The Chelsea fans who pay for their tickets know that their money is going to be spent on the good of the club.

Taxes are not an option and are supposed to be spent on the good of the people paying them. Not to kill people in other countries. How does that help a single mother look after her children? Or an old man recieve medical treatment. Government money is not the same as buisness money.

Narcissistic Nihilist
01-14-2006, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Herr Lipp
Chelsea have spent a few million on last couple of years. But when you take into account a) teh silverwear that's been won b) the fact that all Premiership clubs wage bills are high and c) Chelsea received the biggest shirt sponsorship deal in UK history from Siemens, AND a big deal from Nike it's really not a waste of money at all. In fact it's good business sense.
Their spending is actually closing in on the billion mark, and when you take into account:
a) they have won next to nothing (1 major trophy in 50 years? 2 in their ENTIRE history? They cant even be considered a big club :lol: )
b) the fact Chelsea's wage bill is over 38mill higher then United in second
c) the sponsorship deal is a mere drop in the ocean, and fact covers only a tiny fraction of the aforementioned amount and indeed
d) the entire future of the club is resting in the hands of someone who has a reputation of getting bored and selling teams after a few years,
then it is incredibly awful busines sense.

But then, not being a football fan, you wouldnt understand.

Sleep easy. :)