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El Loto
11-23-2005, 04:38 PM
Well England and Wales. Tonight's the night. What does everyone think will happen? Binge drinking up or down? Thank goodness George Best is in hospital Fraser.

Jackal
11-23-2005, 06:16 PM
I've only drank for 12 hours strait. That is enough! :)

Six Ways
11-23-2005, 07:41 PM
Idunno. Could go either way, but to be honest I rather suspect up. I think there are definitely going to be more deaths due to alcohol, just because more people will stay out and get fatally plastered whereas before they'd get turfed out. It may however be that along with this the general amount of binge drinking goes down however.

Nak Nak
11-24-2005, 12:15 AM
Hopefully many fools will die.

Narcissistic Nihilist
11-24-2005, 03:51 AM
Binge drinking will become a thing of the past. One the novelty dies off.

Look, binge drinking refers to people cramming them in, in a short space of time due to the archaic laws. People dont need to be in such a hurry anymore, ergo binge drinking will evaporate.

Had to chuckle at the Daily Mail headline today. What a bunch of morons.

Herr Lipp
11-24-2005, 05:29 AM
What did it say Daniel? I never buy that Conservative rag.

It will be nice to go for a beer after seeing a film, say. It may bring down some of the violence, but I feel sorry for the policemen that will have more to deal with at 4/5/6am when typically everything would be quiet after the cubs kick out at 3ish. But then again, I dont like the police, so fuck them if they're tired!

Narcissistic Nihilist
11-24-2005, 05:59 AM
I cant remember exactly, but it just had in big "THANKS TONY" and in semi-big "75,000 more arrests, 10,000 more alcohol deaths" etc etc. It was something like that.

Typical Daily Mail bullshit.

Herr Lipp
11-24-2005, 06:02 AM
How stupid to put your predictions, probably from a biased source, in the headlines.

Narcissistic Nihilist
11-24-2005, 06:03 AM
I was trying to google it and found this. (http://www.bigdaddymerk.co.uk/mailwatch/index.php?p=100)

Fucking hilarious!

Herr Lipp
11-24-2005, 06:07 AM
That's classic.

http://www.bigdaddymerk.co.uk/mailwatch/wp-content/mail_mockup.jpg

EDIT: doesnt seem to want to import the picture on its own. Not to worry.....

Nak Nak
11-24-2005, 06:55 AM
I bet the daily mail office smells like old adult nappies, talcum powder, scented potpourri and spoilt milk.

Herr Lipp
11-24-2005, 07:31 AM
I wonder if it's true that all journalists are pretty similar, they just write differently for their different papers?

I'm a Daily Mirror person. I can't really be bothere with the effin and jeffin (that's an old saying!) of broadsheets, though they tend to have quite interesting articles. You definitely improve your vocabulary by reading broadsheets.

The Mirror isn't perfect, they tend t fly off the handle just like The Sun (see the bird flu paranoia of late "WERE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! AARRGGGHHH!!!") but it's generally unbiased, even though it's Labour.

How can you respect The Sun when they change their political preferences at the drop of a hat. I can't believe The Sun is the nations favourite paper....ach well no use moaning.

Fab
11-24-2005, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by Narcissistic Nihilist
Binge drinking will become a thing of the past. One the novelty dies off.

Look, binge drinking refers to people cramming them in, in a short space of time due to the archaic laws. People dont need to be in such a hurry anymore, ergo binge drinking will evaporate. I think the drinking will go up at first, but then people will realise that staying out drinking alll night at the pub is rather pricey.

Herr Lipp
11-24-2005, 08:18 AM
Also, I think people that think they are "hardcore" because they drink non-stop from 8.30 till 11pm will try and show off and carry on binging till like 2am then pass out! Can't start fights when you're unconscious can you!

Irresponsible drinkers piss me off man. The number of alcohol-related casualty intakes at teh weekend is terrible.

Herr Lipp
11-24-2005, 08:19 AM
They should just put up stomach pumping stations in the street, like those urinals they've got in Londinium.

ramblingrose
11-24-2005, 09:01 AM
Last night we thought about going 24-hour drinking, but since Alex had just had a tattoo done and I had to get up early today we drank tea and watched What Not To Wear instead.

I enjoyed the Guardian headline as read out by Trevor McDonald;
"Rivers of alcopops! Lakes of vomit!"

I don't think it's really going to make any difference, apart from they might stop doing that annoying thing in clubs where they shut the bar and they'll only sell you pop. Heavy drinking is so deeply ingrained in our national character that changing the opening times isn't going have much effect. My dad likes to tell me about how the pubs in Scotland only used to be open for five seconds or something, but it didn't stop anyone being drunk.

El Loto
11-24-2005, 05:19 PM
Better to buy a load from the offy and go to somebody's house. Cheaper, safer and you can shout abuse at drunks from the safety of a house.

Six Ways
11-24-2005, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by ramblingrose
I don't think it's really going to make any difference. Heavy drinking is so deeply ingrained in our national character that changing the opening times isn't going have much effect. My dad likes to tell me about how the pubs in Scotland only used to be open for five seconds or something, but it didn't stop anyone being drunk.

I agree. I think the difference will probably be minimal, although as I said earlier I do think at least initially deaths will go up, just because people will drink longer cos they can.

ramblingrose
11-25-2005, 05:46 AM
It's not like many places are going to extend their hours much past the current extremes anyway, I can't imagine you'd make an awful lot of money at four o' clock on a Wednesday morning or anything.
We were trying to come up with a way to drink for 24 hours without dying, and decided that if you drank one shot with plenty of mixer every hour you could probably do it, but you wouldn't be drunk enough to get past the falling-asleep stage. I'm not going to try it though.

ems
11-28-2005, 09:44 AM
I don't see what the big deal is; in France clubs have been open til 5am onwards for decades, and you don't see that many drunkards in the street at all.

Then again, Britons are ridiculously prone to getting utterly shitfaced. They can NEVER just enjoy a few - instead they seem to perceive it as a competition of who gets the drunkest in the smallest amount of time.

That pressure is no longer there, but ultimately it's THEIR responsibility to know their limit. It's not the pub's fault.

ramblingrose
11-28-2005, 09:53 AM
Exactly, it's our "proud" tradition of drinking to excess that's problematic, not the opening hours of hostelries. I don't know if other countries consider it de rigeur to drink yourself unconscious in parks until you're old enough to do it in licensed premises.

El Loto
11-29-2005, 05:43 PM
My Modern Studies teacher was telling the class how he has been to many large European cities and in none of them has he ever seen drunk louts walking the streets. Only in the UK. He thinks 24 hour drinking will be good for England and Wales because folk won't be lining up 4 pints at 10.30 to finish them in half an hour. It's good in Scotland having the extended licenses at the weekend. You can drink slowly till 2 and feel fine on the way home.

Herr Lipp
11-30-2005, 07:29 AM
You're 17 man, you blatantly get drunk after two pints :D

People just REALLY let their hair down in the UK. That's why we have such bad reps out in Magaluf and Napa and Ibiza.

El Loto
11-30-2005, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
You're 17 man, you blatantly get drunk after two pints :D

People just REALLY let their hair down in the UK. That's why we have such bad reps out in Magaluf and Napa and Ibiza.

I tend to eat loads before I drink so my stomach is phatly lined. I can drink a bit more that two pints before I get pissed. Captain Torry gets pissed after 2 blue WKDs and is one of the top 3 funniest drunks I know.

Herr Lipp
11-30-2005, 08:08 AM
I'm a welterweight in terms of drinking. I'll be merry after 3 pints of Stella, and probably throwing up after 6. More of a weedman.

Fab
11-30-2005, 08:34 AM
WKD blue! or in fact any colour!

El Loto
11-30-2005, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
I'm a welterweight in terms of drinking. I'll be merry after 3 pints of Stella, and probably throwing up after 6. More of a weedman.

Do you ever mix your drinks. The last three times i've mixed them properly i've been sick. It's the death of a drinker.

Herr Lipp
11-30-2005, 10:58 AM
I've done it and it aint nice. Just brings your threshold in terms of units before spewing down by loads. Mixing Wine with Beer is a classic risky thing to do. But in moderation mixing drinks can get you shit-faced, which is fun when you dont feel ill.

El Loto
11-30-2005, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
I've done it and it aint nice. Just brings your threshold in terms of units before spewing down by loads. Mixing Wine with Beer is a classic risky thing to do. But in moderation mixing drinks can get you shit-faced, which is fun when you dont feel ill.

Wine is my downfall. Its lovely when you're pissed but it has been the staple of my drink mixing. Mixing cider and beer doesn't really do anything.

Six Ways
11-30-2005, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
Mixing Wine with Beer is a classic risky thing to do.

Ugh. I remember the time Frank did that. He was more than a little worse for wear, as was my ex's carpet.

Fab
11-30-2005, 04:03 PM
And how!

Cool As Ice Cream
11-30-2005, 04:26 PM
I've never had a problem with mixing different kinds of alcohol. I usually mix wine, beer and whisky. Sometimes other stuff too.

Maybe this is all in your head. Or maybe you just drink too much and you blame it on the mixing instead of the quantity.

Fab
11-30-2005, 04:30 PM
I never thought mixing drinks was a bad idea until then, and I was very very ill.

Herr Lipp
12-01-2005, 04:36 AM
Shut up Bram. :) Mixing drinks definitely plays havoc on your bowels.

ems
12-01-2005, 05:48 AM
Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
I've never had a problem with mixing different kinds of alcohol.

Yeah me neither. Sometimes yes, I do get sick, if I get carried away, but I think that's more due to the quantity rather than the mixing.

I mix rum, vodka, Archers, whiskey, beer and alcopops...

Maybe it doesn't have as much of an effect because I tend to stick to spirits... I don't know.

:beer:

Herr Lipp
12-01-2005, 06:52 AM
Maybe, just Maybe (and this is a REAL BIG longshot) our bodies handle alcohol differently!!!!!1 Can you imagine that!!! OMG!

ramblingrose
12-01-2005, 06:54 AM
If you mix gin and tonic, Stella and Merrydown cider purchased from the lovely Mr Mistry for old times' sake, you will a) inexplicably become darts champion b) be unable to get out of bed for anything more taxing than another cup of tea until at least the following evening and c)not have the strength to complain about being made to listen to something you are reliably informed is "screamo".

Fab
12-01-2005, 02:32 PM
Like Will Haven? I know far too much about these things really, but I liked Will Haven and they were described as screamo once. This was way before the word emo had broken with the hipsters though, so it's probably totally different.

ramblingrose
12-01-2005, 02:35 PM
Je ne sais pas. I was expecting it to be intolerable but it was actually not bad at all. There was a tune and everything, it wasn't all "jugga jugga eurgh". Proper singing and stuff. Gosh!

ramblingrose
12-01-2005, 03:03 PM
It was only "emo", not "screamo". My mistake.

Jackal
12-02-2005, 09:45 AM
Sometimes mixing is ok, other times it isn't. For me it depends on food intake, and how fast I'm drinking.

If I drink fast, like 7 White Russian's in 2 hours on an empty stomach, I puke all night. But If I drink 5 beers and 2 vodka shots in 4 hours then I'm fine.