Kafka sucks.

[Kill the Poor]

discuss.

[Kinbote]

Okay. You're an idiot and a philistine.

[TheImplodingVoice]

OMG lets make a shocking comment so everyone can see how cool we are!!

[Atomsk Iscariot]

HE IS FRANZ KAFKA!
FRANZ KAFKA!
Be careful if you get him pissed!
FRANZ!
FRANZ KAFKA!
He'll smite you with metaphor fists!

Writing all he caaaaaaaaan!
He's just a maaaaaaaaan!
A warrior of words taking a staaaaaand!
He grew up very poooor!
He's steel, it's to the core!
Born in 1883, died in 1924!
HE IS FRANZ KAFKA!

(KEYBOARD SOLO)

I'm a lonely German...
a lonely German from PRAGUE!

I wonder what I'll write about...
I think I'll write about BUGS!

KAFKA! KAFKA! KAFKA!

http://www.brendonsmall.com/MUSIC/bs%20-%20Track%2002.mp3

[Kill the Poor]

Originally posted by UncleLester
Okay. You're an idiot and a philistine.

You're a moron and a jew?


that song is excellent.

[L'egoMan]

frank zappa?

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by Kill the Poor
discuss.
ok

*discussion starts*

youre wrong.

*discussion ends*

[TheImplodingVoice]

Originally posted by Atomsk Iscariot
HE IS FRANZ KAFKA!
FRANZ KAFKA!
Be careful if you get him pissed!
FRANZ!
FRANZ KAFKA!
He'll smite you with metaphor fists!

Writing all he caaaaaaaaan!
He's just a maaaaaaaaan!
A warrior of words taking a staaaaaand!
He grew up very poooor!
He's steel, it's to the core!
Born in 1883, died in 1924!
HE IS FRANZ KAFKA!

(KEYBOARD SOLO)

I'm a lonely German...
a lonely German from PRAGUE!

I wonder what I'll write about...
I think I'll write about BUGS!

KAFKA! KAFKA! KAFKA!

http://www.brendonsmall.com/MUSIC/bs%20-%20Track%2002.mp3

:yes::yes::yes:

[homer j. simpson]

YEAH, let's all try to be "avante-garde" and say everything sucks for the shock value! fuck yeah! way to be original, dude!


moron.

[British_Rockstar]

Originally posted by Kill the Poor
discuss.

all right. Let's discuss. It just so happens I'm reading The Trial right now. My girlfriend is reading The Castle (and she wouldn't let me buy Amerika!) I have to say right away that I have NOT read The Metamorphosis. I am overly familiar with the story and I've read the first few pages, and then my girlfriend went into soo much detail over its contents - after which I read a number of essays about the story and the afterword to my edition. Needless to say, that was stupid on my part because Kafka wrote some really engaging stories and I really wanted to read the Metamorphosis. Unfortunately, I was oversaturated so I opted to read everything else.

Imagine if you mixed a bit of Rod Serling and Bram Stoker and added the higher ups of Borges and Camus all within the element of societal alienation in post WWI Germany. Brilliant. It's strange because really reading him is literally a breath of fresh air. My lungs just inhale that eery prose.

You might be saying he sucks because your teacher's forcing you to read him, but kids are bound to hate anything under those cicumstances. Even ice cream and Huck Finn.

[TheImplodingVoice]

Originally posted by British_Rockstar
Huck Finn. [/B]

I'd hate to read that in any situation

[Kinbote]

1., Huck Finn is a terrific book.

2., It's interesting that Kafka's style comes across in English so knotted and unique. In German, while nice and distinctive and all, it's fairly fluid and not at all weird. It kind of makes me chortle a bit how his "English style" seems to result from a more literal translation of German syntax.

But that's for the best - I'd much rather a literal translation than a lyric one. The latter can really be trusted only when done under the author's supervision.

[British_Rockstar]

Originally posted by TheImplodingVoice
I'd hate to read that in any situation

and that's a discussion for another thread. Ah, Huck! That's the American soul right there.

[Kill the Poor]

Originally posted by SuckerLove
YEAH, let's all try to be "avante-garde" and say everything sucks for the shock value! fuck yeah! way to be original, dude!

way to be original, dude!




OMG lets make a shocking comment so everyone can see how cool we are!!


I DECLARE THIS THREAD A SUCCESS!

The Metamorphosis sucks, as does everything.

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by Kill the Poor
I DECLARE THIS THREAD A SUCCESS!

The Metamorphosis sucks, as does everything.
well it certainly is a success if you wish to be regarded as a moron. Well done. :yes:

[Kill the Poor]

Originally posted by Narcissistic Nihilist
well it certainly is a success if you wish to be regarded as a moron. Well done. :yes:
:yes:

[motorcyclemptiness]

I think Kill the Poor is like 16, so like, yeah, let's not invest too much interest on his literary opinions.

[Kinbote]

Rhonda, how dare you question the literary opinions of a 16 year old kid apparently really into the Dead Kennedys! Harold Bloom's qualifications are IDENTICAL.

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by motorcyclemptiness
I think Kill the Poor is like 16, so like, yeah, let's not invest too much interest on his literary opinions.
His age isnt the issue, just his stupidity.

Its moronic to want to be a moron, so by agreeing with my statement that all he has achieved is making himself look stupid, he has ably demonstrated that he IS a total moron. And it is as a total moron, his literary views (and indeed anything else of his) are seen.

[Kinbote]

I don't know, it might transcend the moronic: most young morons, I think, would pretend to like Kafka, because he's canonical yet with a slight edge.

[British_Rockstar]

speaking of moronic (and I think hating Huck Finn may be taking the raft up the river towards that plain) I was on Amazon looking up some information on books to buy earlier today and I saw one of those user lists. This one was titled "books to give you a headache". Curious cat that I am, I clicked on the link. Of course, Ulysses was on there, in fact it was the one pictured (the edition I own too! I forget if it was a friend who gave it as a gift or if I bought it on my own.. Apologies to that friend). Well, all right, YES Joyce is nuts. But it's fun to piece certain things together. That aside, Ulysses was actually the last one on the list! First and foremost were Dickens' "Hard Times" and Sinclair's "The Jungle." Just like our friend Kill the Poor here this person had no idea what they were talking about. They went on about how these books were for hip eltists who understood little of literature and were, as you say, extoling the canonical with a slight edge of their own post-structural interpretation. Strangely enough when I read these novels they seemes like pretty straightforward fare to me. If they have an agenda they state it very plainly (although Upton may have had a bit more to fear in being too outspoken)

And I'm not just rushing to the defense of these books because I "get them." When I read Hard Times and The Jungle I actually felt awed by their presence. Honestly, if you would ask me what my favorite books are those two would make the list. t's strange the way some young people think these days.

[Kinbote]

I like the idea of Dickens and "The Jungle" being hip elitist stuff. That's kind of cute.

Also, somewhat but not entirely unrelatedly, I think the reputation of Ulysses as being a supremely "difficult" book significantly outweighs its actual "difficulty." The only portion I'd say is truly frustrating to read is Molly's monologue (also the worst section of the book, in my opinion). The rest is free and clear for anyone willing to pay attention. And, I suppose, with a brain. The rest manufacture for it an illusory opacity.

But of course the world is full of idiots. Especially in academics. I hate anyone who subscribes to a school of criticism.

[British_Rockstar]

what you didn't know? I can't even count out the number of times on my fingers that I've gotten laid by citing Dickens without resorting to pulling down my pants.

[Kinbote]

You know, I was out at a bar the other night, and I had a copy of Martin Chuzzlewit with me, and I couldn't get all the barely-clothed coeds to stop hitting on me, touching me, etc., all night! I thought it was my new shampoo, but I guess now I know the true cause.

[British_Rockstar]

Spouting Chuzzlewit makes them guzzle it.