So Billy Corgan is getting sued... [Archive]

Spaced

08-11-2005, 09:55 PM

As far as I know, the Pumpkins were officially the "Smashing Pumpkins".
The reformed band just needs to be officially recognised as "The Smashing Pumpkins", so it's a new band as opposed to the old one. It's more than likely that 50% of the line-up will be diffrent, so that also helps!:)

ps. The 'fans' suing Billy are retarded beyond any measure!

Trickster

08-11-2005, 09:57 PM

I believe they added the "The" from Mellon Collie onwards so it was clear to people that "Smashing" was an adjective, not a verb.

Chopstick

08-11-2005, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by Richard Fish
I believe they added the "The" from Mellon Collie onwards so it was clear to people that "Smashing" was an adjective, not a verb.
This is true.

Also, I bet the fans are wanting compensation for the insane price they paid scalpers for their tickets. The prices wouldn't have been so jacked up if it wasn't the last show.

You know what would be fitting? Billy decides not to reform the band so that he won't have to deal with the lawsuit or for whatever reason. Then the plaintiffs are murdered by legions of angry netphorians.

Spaced

08-11-2005, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by Richard Fish
I believe they added the "The" from Mellon Collie onwards so it was clear to people that "Smashing" was an adjective, not a verb.

Forgot about the MCIS change. Anyway, I can't see all the original band members reforming, so in that sense the Metro was the last performance. Billy could also do a Prince and reform the band under a symbol such as the SP heart or Machinas Cross thing:rolleyes:

Eye

08-12-2005, 12:04 AM

Better yet, reform as The Machines of God lol j/k.

Drunkenmaster

08-12-2005, 12:11 AM

Oh, I hope they win. That is pretty shitty to say it's the last Pumpkins show and then reform so soon. I'd have given my left nut to be at that show but I'd be a little pissed if I gave it up for nothing. So, let's see, now I have one nut and... yeah, give me some fucking money, bitch.:mad:

Atomsk Iscariot

08-12-2005, 12:32 AM

I enjoy the phrase "oh fucking well."

inkblotter

08-12-2005, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by Evil Meanie
...the gist of it is that he is being sued by 14 fans for reuniting SP or something of that nature.

:no:

This is so damned weak. Just damned weak. Hopefully, it'll get thrown out of court for its sheer lameness, if nothing else.

Noshus Klam

08-12-2005, 03:16 AM

oh man!

I can just see him crying in the court room.

kendra

08-12-2005, 05:21 AM

lol, Kris. lol

Union Jack

08-12-2005, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by Richard Fish
I believe they added the "The" from Mellon Collie onwards so it was clear to people that "Smashing" was an adjective, not a verb.

wrong...they were always The Smashing Pumpkins but between '91 and '95 the 'the' was missing...

Herr Lipp

08-12-2005, 05:35 AM

One of the "fans" is blatantly a recently qualified lawyer or something, the twat.

It would be funny if they won though :D

Noshus Klam

08-12-2005, 05:38 AM

Billy will end up losing all of his money and will have to sell bootleg metro dvd's at the subway to get by.

Herr Lipp

08-12-2005, 06:24 AM

and he'll end up sleeping in Peters apartment, except Peter will be the one sleeping on the floor :)

WorldView

08-12-2005, 08:28 AM

I actually went to the last metro, and believe me it was insane. Some of the prices that the fans were paying was outrageous...1,000..1,500...2,500 it was insane!!

But to sue Billy for it is total BS. The performance was great! I mean we all knew deep down inside that he would reform the pumpkins, heck I knew this on 5/23..

Herr Lipp

08-12-2005, 08:41 AM

say, could you get me a copy of the metro dvd?

:O

Noshus Klam

08-12-2005, 08:48 AM

Hopefully he never plays any of his solo stuff again.

Molly

08-12-2005, 09:12 AM

this is way up there as one of the most retarded things ive ever heard.

Daysleeper

08-12-2005, 09:17 AM

This story is either rubbish...or those fans are twats....why would you sue someone for playing a final gig and then it probably being not the final gig....it's bullshit.

Noshus Klam

08-12-2005, 09:25 AM

I think it's pretty cool. Hopefully it'll knock Corgan down a peg or two and he'll actually begin to think before he acts.

OMG I WANT TO DO SOMETHING NEW OMG

2 minutes later

OMG I WANT MY BAND BACK, BRING ON THE PUMPKINZ

Zen Acolyte

08-12-2005, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by Molly
this is way up there as one of the most retarded things ive ever heard.

+1

Celluloid Love

08-12-2005, 10:06 AM

Maybe he'll wise up and get Djali Zwan together.

Zen Acolyte

08-12-2005, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by Copywrite Nigga
Maybe he'll wise up and get Djali Zwan together.

Back to those roots, no!

Liam-M

08-12-2005, 10:19 AM

fuck them, if they were willing enough to pay that much to have gone see them, then obviously they must have been huge fans. they should be happy that theyre getting back together, not being all money greedy

Cool As Ice Cream

08-12-2005, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Spaced
As far as I know, the Pumpkins were officially the "Smashing Pumpkins". You know shit.

Noshus Klam

08-12-2005, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Liam-M
fuck them, if they were willing enough to pay that much to have gone see them, then obviously they must have been huge fans. they should be happy that theyre getting back together, not being all money greedy

I dunno dude. I'd be pretty pissed if I was one of the people who paid over two thousand dollars just to get there and then on top of that pay inflated ticket prices thinking it was my last chance to see one of my favorite bands and then they already plan to reunite a mere 5 years later.

It would be cool if Corgan got jail time. If not for this, then for TheFutureEmbrace. :)

Herr Lipp

08-12-2005, 10:55 AM

I cut Billy more slack than you do Kris, but I even think hes a bit of a chad reuniting this soon. Take a fucking extended break, sure, dont fucking tell teh world you're quitting, cream it in on a world tour (teh only show I ever saw was teh final tour 23/11/00) then come crawling back 5 years on....2 months after releasing a solo album

:knob:

Noshus Klam

08-12-2005, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
I cut Billy more slack than you do Kris, but I even think hes a bit of a chad reuniting this soon. Take a fucking extended break, sure, dont fucking tell teh world you're quitting, cream it in on a world tour (teh only show I ever saw was teh final tour 23/11/00) then come crawling back 5 years on....2 months after releasing a solo album

:knob:

money money money moneyyyyyy
moneeeeeyyyyyy

The dude can't make money without the Pumpkins.

Cool As Ice Cream

08-12-2005, 11:03 AM

As far as I know they are not reuniting. And Billy is still denying that there will be a reunion.

Of course this can still change, but that's how it is looking today.

Herr Lipp

08-12-2005, 11:08 AM

what makes you say that, is I may ask?

didnt he take a page spread out in a Cicago newspaper saying differently?

Herr Lipp

08-12-2005, 11:08 AM

*if

Cool As Ice Cream

08-12-2005, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
didnt he take a page spread out in a Cicago newspaper saying differently? i don't think he said differently. but of course people read what they want to read...

Herr Lipp

08-12-2005, 11:30 AM

how mysterious...

*twilight zone theme tune*

Liam-M

08-12-2005, 11:40 AM

what about what jimmy said? (could be a tour as early as feb 2006)

Cool As Ice Cream

08-12-2005, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Liam-M
what about what jimmy said? (could be a tour as early as feb 2006) that is in no way related to darcy and james joining the band again.

Liam-M

08-12-2005, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
that is in no way related to darcy and james joining the band again.

i never said it did. i didnt know it was that you were talking about

Noshus Klam

08-12-2005, 12:02 PM

Hey Bram.

I was walking around in a store today and I bought a bottle of Absinth! I had no idea it was legal again in Belgium!

True story.

Kris

greenletter

08-12-2005, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by Liam-M
i never said it did. i didnt know it was that you were talking about

Bram is pointing out the difference between 'reuniting' and 'reviving'.

Liam-M

08-12-2005, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by greenletter
Bram is pointing out the difference between 'reuniting' and 'reviving'.

i geddit now

Cool As Ice Cream

08-12-2005, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by Kris K
Hey Bram.

I was walking around in a store today and I bought a bottle of Absinth! I had no idea it was legal again in Belgium!

True story.

Kris It has been for a couple of months now. Didn't I make a post about it? Probably not.

And how's the situation with marihuana today? I can't remember. It changes two times a year.

Anyway, I believe they're only selling a soft and wussy kind of absinth. Controlled, no dangerous substances, ...
I don't know. I never had absinth. Enjoy it and let me know if it's worth buying.

Noshus Klam

08-12-2005, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
It has been for a couple of months now. Didn't I make a post about it? Probably not.

And how's the situation with marihuana today? I can't remember. It changes two times a year.

Anyway, I believe they're only selling a soft and wussy kind of absinth. Controlled, no dangerous substances, ...
I don't know. I never had absinth. Enjoy it and let me know if it's worth buying.

It's 55%. I don't know what percent usual absinth is, but 55% is good enough for me.

I had one shot earlier, it was pretty good.

Liam-M

08-12-2005, 12:26 PM

they had some there when i went, but i thought the percentage was supposed to be higher so i didnt buy any

TheImplodingVoice

08-12-2005, 12:46 PM

Absente, Absinth and Absinthe are 3 different things...the real deal is Absinthe which is usually 70% and dangerous in large amounts..the other 2 are not dangerous and are around 50%

All of them are made with the same ingredients though...just in different proportions

Rael

08-12-2005, 02:09 PM

what is the difference between Absinthe and reular alcohol?

Does it make you see shit?

Just curious because here in america none of the shit you guys are talking about is legal not even the Mary Jane.

America sucks balls.

Cool As Ice Cream

08-12-2005, 02:17 PM

Isn't there an extra ingredient in absinth, besides the alcohol? Something that makes you hallucinate?

Zen Acolyte

08-12-2005, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Rael
not even the Mary Jane.

I know...my thinking (which is wrong thinking) is that Mary is completely natural. Meaning, God put it here for a reason. Not just as a Glacauma sedative.

Fab

08-12-2005, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
Isn't there an extra ingredient in absinth, besides the alcohol? Something that makes you hallucinate? secondary effects vary from person to person and also what particular brand of absithe you're drinking, but yeah, the extra ingredient that can cause hallucinations is wormwood, which contains a chemical called thujone.

Fab

08-12-2005, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Tylenol
I know...my thinking (which is wrong thinking) is that Mary is completely natural. Meaning, God put it here for a reason. Not just as a Glacauma sedative. God gave us the ability and resources to make LSD. I'm not against drugs, but I'm just showing you that there's a loophole in your reasoning.

Fab

08-12-2005, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by TheImplodingVoice
Absente, Absinth and Absinthe are 3 different things...the real deal is Absinthe which is usually 70% and dangerous in large amounts..the other 2 are not dangerous and are around 50%

All of them are made with the same ingredients though...just in different proportions I've not heard of absente, but absinth is just czech made absinthe, though it tends to be made with blended oils of the key ingredients rather than the raw ingredients. It can have just as high an alcohol content though, as far as I know.

Zen Acolyte

08-12-2005, 02:35 PM

So, how much is this, pricewise? And what are the quantities you can buy it in?

Noshus Klam

08-12-2005, 04:18 PM

http://myspace-273.vo.llnwd.net/00187/37/26/187776273_l.jpg

random girl

08-12-2005, 04:40 PM

I wish I had cheez-its.

Noshus Klam

08-12-2005, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by random girl
I wish I had cheez-its.

They're damn addicting.

Have you ever had those really big cheeze-its?

random girl

08-12-2005, 05:06 PM

Yes, but they're not as good as the small ones. I got these reduced fat ones that come in 100 calorie bags. Good Lord, horrendous and bland. D:

Drunkenmaster

08-12-2005, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by random girl
Yes, but they're not as good as the small ones. I got these reduced fat ones that come in 100 calorie bags. Good Lord, horrendous and bland. D: OMG get the tabasco ones!!! They are the best ever.

random girl

08-12-2005, 06:15 PM

I hate tobasco! :no:

CrestfallenAlex

08-12-2005, 06:29 PM

Yeah, fuck cancer.

Evil Meanie

08-12-2005, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by Kris K
I dunno dude. I'd be pretty pissed if I was one of the people who paid over two thousand dollars just to get there and then on top of that pay inflated ticket prices thinking it was my last chance to see one of my favorite bands and then they already plan to reunite a mere 5 years later.

It would be cool if Corgan got jail time. If not for this, then for TheFutureEmbrace. :)

You have to be kidding me. Are you really so desperate to bash Billy that you would support something as asinine as suing him for "reviving" the Pumpkins? The Metro show loses absolutely no significance whatsoever just because Billy is talking about getting the band back together. It was a five hour show that marked, if not the end of The Pumpkins, the end of an era for The Smashing Pumpkins.

Should I sue Hulk Hogan for constantly coming out of retirement for one more wrestling match? Or maybe Michael Jordan for coming out of retirement not once, but TWICE. Better yet, I'll sue Roger Waters for sharing a stage with David Gilmour again, since his insisted that he never would numerous times.

Bands break up, swear that they'll never get back together, and then get back together all the time. People go into retirement, and then come out of retirement constantly. It's a fact of life. So these people paid thousands of dollars for their Metro tickets, big fucking deal. I'm surprised a lawyer even took their case.

Trickster

08-12-2005, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by Kris K
It would be cool if Corgan got jail time. If not for this, then for TheFutureEmbrace. :)
I don't agree, but it's still funny.

Chopstick

08-12-2005, 07:03 PM

Earlier I PMed Evil Meanie crying "bullshit." But he insists he isn't making it up. Therefore I think someone else is making this up. It's just too stupid. I would also expect to see some news coverage of this story if it were genuine.

Evil Meanie

08-12-2005, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by Chopstick
Earlier I PMed Evil Meanie crying "bullshit." But he insists he isn't making it up. Therefore I think someone else is making this up. It's just too stupid. I would also expect to see some news coverage of this story if it were genuine.

I'm really not, but it honestly probably has about as much legitimacy as the petitions to get the Metro DVD released and to get James and D'arcy back into the band. But still, I found it so ridiculous that I just had to point it out.

CrestfallenAlex

08-12-2005, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by Evil Meanie
The Gospel Truth

I agree with this post.

Noshus Klam

08-13-2005, 04:50 AM

Originally posted by Evil Meanie
You have to be kidding me. Are you really so desperate to bash Billy that you would support something as asinine as suing him for "reviving" the Pumpkins? The Metro show loses absolutely no significance whatsoever just because Billy is talking about getting the band back together. It was a five hour show that marked, if not the end of The Pumpkins, the end of an era for The Smashing Pumpkins.

Should I sue Hulk Hogan for constantly coming out of retirement for one more wrestling match? Or maybe Michael Jordan for coming out of retirement not once, but TWICE. Better yet, I'll sue Roger Waters for sharing a stage with David Gilmour again, since his insisted that he never would numerous times.

Bands break up, swear that they'll never get back together, and then get back together all the time. People go into retirement, and then come out of retirement constantly. It's a fact of life. So these people paid thousands of dollars for their Metro tickets, big fucking deal. I'm surprised a lawyer even took their case.

I wouldn't sue him, but I certainly don't feel bad that people are. I don't think it's right, but I really do hope they win. Just because it's Billy.

Atomsk Iscariot

08-13-2005, 05:16 AM

Originally posted by Kris K
Just because it's Billy. Oh Kris! *studio audience laughter*

Cool As Ice Cream

08-13-2005, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by Evil Meanie
Are you really so desperate to bash Billy that you would support something as asinine as suing him for "reviving" the Pumpkins?Originally posted by Kris K
I really do hope they win. Just because it's Billy. I suppose this answers your question, Evil Meanie.

Noshus Klam

08-13-2005, 07:48 AM

Cool As Ice Cream

08-13-2005, 07:48 AM

I found that other one better: "A message from Chicago to Billy Corgan - FUCK OFF"

Anyone has that picture?

Noshus Klam

08-13-2005, 07:49 AM

Peter destroyed all traces of it.

Cool As Ice Cream

08-13-2005, 07:50 AM

Anyone checked his studio?

Cool As Ice Cream

08-13-2005, 07:50 AM

He lives in a studio, right?

Noshus Klam

08-13-2005, 07:52 AM

He sold the studio for a black dress and an Asian guitarist.

Cool As Ice Cream

08-13-2005, 07:55 AM

Hmm... I wonder what he's up to...

Noshus Klam

08-13-2005, 07:57 AM

He's starting a Pumpkins tribute band called Broken Ankles.

Fab

08-13-2005, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by Kris K
Broken Ankles. does that sound like a post-hardcore/emo band to anyone else.

Ambrose

08-13-2005, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by Kris K
.

Haha, that's funny. Where was that done? Sorry, I've been out of it for a while. I had a party last month and my FutureEmbrace has been missing since. I doubt anyone nicked it though.

But seriously, TFE was a good enough album. As listenable to as Coldplay's new one. Two or three great songs and a load of mediocre ones.

I'm going to see Jimmy in 13 days! Who else is going? (Dublin Show)

Osceana

08-13-2005, 09:35 PM

I knew this was going to happen. Some kind of legal trouble was going to ensue. It just had to.

If D'Arcy declines the offer to rejoin then i can certainly see her sueing Billy for misappropriation. It happens all the times with bands that do this sort of thing (i.e. Creedence Clearwater Revival/Revisited). As a matter of fact i could see her decling just so she could sue.

But this is even lower than low. But it will get thrown out. I have no doubt about it. Billy can certainly afford a better attorney than these chumps. And it will be established that either he truly did intend to leave things as they were, and that the band actually did dissolve, therefore this is a new incarnation; the "final" show was the final show, or they will use some convoluted loop-hole to allay any legal penalties.

Does anyone remember that guy that sued the Pumpkins because he stood too close to that speaker and blew his ears out? What a dumbass. :rolleyes:

Jackal

08-13-2005, 09:43 PM

I wanna sue Billy........

.........................
..........For stealing my heart. ah ha ha ha ha! ah ha ahah!!!

Oh, Billy!!!!!.........hA HA AH A.

Cool As Ice Cream

08-13-2005, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by Osceana
I knew this was going to happen. Some kind of legal trouble was going to ensue. It just had to. I disagree.

Jackal

08-13-2005, 10:26 PM

Clairvoyant. spelled so wrong.

But Billy likes that stuff. Astrology. Freaks.
Someitmes It matches up and sometimes it doesn't.

Saturn Return. I read about that in an interview and almost agreed. Did you ever get into astrology?

Barbarian Love Elephant

08-13-2005, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by Ambrose
Haha, that's funny. Where was that done? Sorry, I've been out of it for a while. I had a party last month and my FutureEmbrace has been missing since. I doubt anyone nicked it though.

But seriously, TFE was a good enough album. As listenable to as Coldplay's new one. Two or three great songs and a load of mediocre ones.

I'm going to see Jimmy in 13 days! Who else is going? (Dublin Show)

me! i'll be the fat ugly guy who looks thinner and hotter on the internet