I listened to Zwan today [Archive]

Jackal

08-05-2005, 09:05 PM

I never listened to Zwan (4REELS) should I?

I guess I heard the new song on the radio. But I saw the band and the Asian guy and the girl and thought he was trying to pretend it was TSP. I feel bad.

Cool As Ice Cream

08-05-2005, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by Jackal
But I saw the band and the Asian guy and the girl and thought he was trying to pretend it was TSP. What a silly thought.

I don't think Zwan is really worth checking out.

I enjoyed the listen though.

Chopstick

08-05-2005, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by Jackal
I never listened to Zwan (4REELS) should I?

I guess I heard the new song on the radio. But I saw the band and the Asian guy and the girl and thought he was trying to pretend it was TSP. I feel bad.
It's worth hearing. But buy it used. Buy it cheap. Although there is a version with a DVD that you can't get in stores anymore. I think the DVD is useful if you want to get a feel for what it was lick in the days of Zwan. Also, all the fragmented songs on the DVD as background audio are better than the songs on the album.

Cool As Ice Cream

08-05-2005, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by Chopstick
Although there is a version with a DVD that you can't get in stores anymore. It's still available here.

I guess this proves how popular they are.

PLEASE DON'T STEP ON ME

08-05-2005, 09:11 PM

There are a few alright songs here and there... but... eh... I wouldn't want to spend too much at all trying to track down a copy. Download it!

PLEASE DON'T STEP ON ME

08-05-2005, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by Dufus
Download it!

Untroo Fan!

There we go, I said it for you.

Jackal

08-05-2005, 09:12 PM

I should here it, though Billy doesn't make it sound very wonderful. Him trying to not be himself.

Jackal

08-05-2005, 09:13 PM

hear. I mean. Of course!!!

somaziro

08-05-2005, 10:02 PM

to be perfectly honest, i think that the paris acoustic bootleg is one of the best things ive heard from billy, including alot of smashing pumpkins stuff which i love.

i am very saddened that all the great music from zwan will just die, but happy that they at least got to do an amazing set, the paris show, and that i can throw that on whenever i feel like listening to some acoustic jamming.

Chopstick

08-05-2005, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by somaziro
to be perfectly honest, i think that the paris acoustic bootleg is one of the best things ive heard from billy, including alot of smashing pumpkins stuff which i love.

i am very saddened that all the great music from zwan will just die, but happy that they at least got to do an amazing set, the paris show, and that i can throw that on whenever i feel like listening to some acoustic jamming.
Agreed!

Drunkenmaster

08-05-2005, 10:11 PM

I watched Zwan live at the Galaxy Theater today and yesterday. I know it's unpopular around here, but I like Zwan.

:hide:

Drunkenmaster

08-05-2005, 10:14 PM

Evil Meanie

08-05-2005, 10:22 PM

I too would be interested in hearing this Paris show that is being talked about.

machina1

08-05-2005, 11:43 PM

zwan b-sides and early tracks are essential for the ears...

machina1

08-05-2005, 11:45 PM

hey, is the zwan galaxy theater show accessible??? can it be downloaded?

Tabris

08-05-2005, 11:50 PM

Zwan made a lot of great music... but sadly recorded very little of their worthwhile tracks... those they did they ruined in production

Drunkenmaster

08-06-2005, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by machina1
hey, is the zwan galaxy theater show accessible??? can it be downloaded? http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/browse.php?search=zwan&cat=0&incldead=1
You have to join, I believe but it's free.

Atomsk Iscariot

08-06-2005, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by Evil Meanie
I too would be interested in hearing this Paris show that is being talked about. For those torrent-savvy folks, http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=1757

If you're not torrent savvy and still want to hear it, tell me so and I'll up it to yousendit.

Evil Meanie

08-06-2005, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by Atomsk Iscariot
For those torrent-savvy folks, http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=1757

If you're not torrent savvy and still want to hear it, tell me so and I'll up it to yousendit.

I don't have an account.

EDIT: Nevermind, I'll just get one.

vordabois

08-06-2005, 02:05 AM

Originally posted by Chopstick
Last time I listened to MSOTS, I didn't finish it. I skipped to the title track after awhile, and that was that.

somaziro

08-06-2005, 03:01 AM

sorry dont have a link to the paris show, but honestly its not only one of the best performances of any billy band, its also just amazing great music in the format that it is presented in

andym

08-06-2005, 07:29 AM

thanx for the torrents !

unfortunately i dont think they work for me, if anyone could upload zwan @ BBC audio and Galaxy videos id be grateful ! also the dvd audio clips, my life and time...etc

Zwan were good, to be honest it was a corgan solo project. i think they make wrong choices, a lot of unreleased songs are better than some on the album.

andym

08-06-2005, 07:31 AM

oh and i agree to whoever saif the paris show was one of the best things billy ever done, truly mind blowing. i deeply regret they didnt release the acoustic djali zwan project.

Fab

08-06-2005, 07:57 AM

I saw the Lyric single go on ebay for £10

Drunkenmaster

08-06-2005, 10:48 AM

I currently have the Paris show open along with 4 or 5 other seeders for anyone trying to download so it should move pretty fast.

Drunkenmaster

08-06-2005, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by Fab
I saw the Lyric single go on ebay for £10 That's fuckin nuts.

Fab

08-06-2005, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Drunkenmaster
That's fuckin nuts. the thing is, it was £10 with a few days left, i don't know what it went for in the end. there are 4 up at the moment, so it's a lot cheaper.

Daysleeper

08-06-2005, 11:40 AM

I listened to MSTOTS on the way to work t'other day...it was ok...

I occasionally (sp?) to some live tracks I have on my computer....the empty sea, spilled milk etc...

They were ok...but they had 3 guitarists and should have done so much more with that!

I am sam's screen name

08-06-2005, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by andym
thanx for the torrents !

unfortunately i dont think they work for me, if anyone could upload zwan @ BBC audio and Galaxy videos id be grateful ! also the dvd audio clips, my life and time...etc

Zwan were good, to be honest it was a corgan solo project. i think they make wrong choices, a lot of unreleased songs are better than some on the album.

that's not true... I think Zwan was the most band collaboritive effort that Billy has ever done. Not a solo thing at all... the pumpkins were more of a "billy" thing than Zwan was... Although, I think that everyone in the band (including corgan) began to think Zwan was a joke after awhile... The music and the idea or Zwan for the most part was top notch... just nobody took them seriously because it was the guy from the pumpkins doing another band.

Evil Meanie

08-06-2005, 03:38 PM

Regardless of what Zwan was, why they broke up, or anything like that....I just listened to the Paris acoustic show, and THAT was a fucking good concert. I am very impressed.

Noshus Klam

08-06-2005, 05:12 PM

http://myspace-853.vo.llnwd.net/00172/35/81/172441853_l.gif

Trickster

08-06-2005, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Kris K
http://myspace-853.vo.llnwd.net/00172/35/81/172441853_l.gif
Amazing.

Could someone seed the Galaxy Video torrent though?

XenonDreams

08-06-2005, 05:58 PM

as somebody pointed out, jimmy was really given the green light on mstos, and hence i always enjoy listening even if its pretty lame at points. i actually got my x to burn it for me the other night since i had lost it, its pretty good stuff i suppose. not as bad as i remember anyway

Cool As Ice Cream

08-06-2005, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by Kris K
http://myspace-853.vo.llnwd.net/00172/35/81/172441853_l.gif Lovely!

PLEASE DON'T STEP ON ME

08-06-2005, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by Atomsk Iscariot
If you're not torrent savvy and still want to hear it, tell me so and I'll up it to yousendit.

I'd be very grateful if you did! I'm torrent savvy and all, but I cant ever seem to get higher download speeds than like 15kbs or so :(

vordabois

08-06-2005, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by Kris K
http://myspace-853.vo.llnwd.net/00172/35/81/172441853_l.gif

:yes:

Drunkenmaster

08-06-2005, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by Evil Meanie
Regardless of what Zwan was, why they broke up, or anything like that....I just listened to the Paris acoustic show, and THAT was a fucking good concert. I am very impressed. You're right. I'm loving it. And Paz's back up vocals actually sound good. :yes:

Evil Meanie

08-06-2005, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by Drunkenmaster
You're right. I'm loving it. And Paz's back up vocals actually sound good. :yes:

Heh..I can't get over how good this set is. I'm really loving this version of "Love Lies in Ruin." I never really notice anyone talk about that song, but it's always been one of my favorites.

somaziro

08-07-2005, 02:31 AM

ive been obsessed with the paris show since the boot first came out, i listen to it pretty often. cant remember the last time i actually listened to msots though.

Noshus Klam

08-07-2005, 05:02 AM

kris says: (10:59:47 AM)
___John Petruci is replacing James Iha

alan says: (11:00:34 AM)
___john petruci should replace corgan, and corgan should replace iha

kris says: (11:00:51 AM)
___baha

alan says: (11:00:55 AM)
___and when they break up again, petruci will be all "it was corgan's fault, he wouldn't let me love him"

Daysleeper

08-07-2005, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by Evil Meanie
Regardless of what Zwan was, why they broke up, or anything like that....I just listened to the Paris acoustic show, and THAT was a fucking good concert. I am very impressed.

Yeah...Love lies in ruins is class at that show...so is for your love!!!

Atomsk Iscariot

08-08-2005, 04:52 AM

Originally posted by Dufus
I'd be very grateful if you did! I'm torrent savvy and all, but I cant ever seem to get higher download speeds than like 15kbs or so :( http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3E09OG6CY4Q473T6IGYL0ZPSCH

It's a .rar file. All the files were converted from .flac to .mp3, just so you know (.flac would've proven quite troublesome to send over YSI). Enjoy.

Evil Meanie

08-08-2005, 05:21 AM

Originally posted by Atomsk Iscariot
http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3E09OG6CY4Q473T6IGYL0ZPSCH

It's a .rar file. All the files were converted from .flac to .mp3, just so you know (.flac would've proven quite troublesome to send over YSI). Enjoy.

Damn..

If I had just waited for you to post that, I wouldn't have had to go through the trouble of converting the songs to mp3 myself.

PLEASE DON'T STEP ON ME

08-08-2005, 05:26 AM

Cool As Ice Cream

08-08-2005, 11:33 AM

By the way, what version of the Paris acoustic show do you guys have? I have an incomplete FM source, with French dj talking. Also, the order of the songs is messed up. The last songs are Friends As Lovers > Honestly > Jesus, I + MSOTS. The encore is missing.

http://www.spfc.org/tours/date.html?tour_id=968

Anyone has the full show? How's the quality?

Fab

08-08-2005, 11:40 AM

I has it, it was available on the corgan media forums thing, it has the encore and the quality's great, almost (but not) soundboard quality. My particualr version went through a conversion from 256kbs aac to 128kbs aac so it wouldn't be right to share it, but it's floating around somewhere.

Rael

08-08-2005, 02:33 PM

When i think of Zwan I think about what Paz's coochie smells like.

The early live stuff was good but thats about it.

Cool As Ice Cream

08-08-2005, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by Fab
I has it, it was available on the corgan media forums thing, it has the encore and the quality's great, almost (but not) soundboard quality. My particualr version went through a conversion from 256kbs aac to 128kbs aac so it wouldn't be right to share it, but it's floating around somewhere. I checked the Hub and it's on there. One day I might check it out.

greenletter

08-08-2005, 06:02 PM

How do I open a .rar file?

CrestfallenAlex

08-08-2005, 06:48 PM

I'm afraid I'm not "torrent savvy," "hub savvy," or really "downloading anything savvy." Is anyone with the Paris show interested in a b+p or a trade?

Drunkenmaster

08-08-2005, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by greenletter
How do I open a .rar file? With winrar. Google it. It's free.

Drunkenmaster

08-08-2005, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
I checked the Hub and it's on there. One day I might check it out. It's on dimeadozen and it's the full show. Good quality, too. In FLAC

Fab

08-09-2005, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by Fab
the thing is, it was £10 with a few days left, i don't know what it went for in the end. there are 4 up at the moment, so it's a lot cheaper. just by the by, here (http://search-completed.ebay.co.uk/zwan-lyric_W0QQcatrefZC5QQfbdZ1QQfclZ3QQfisZ2QQflocZ1QQfposZLS248BGQQfromZR6QQfrppZ50QQfsclZ1QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQga10244Z10425QQpfidZ0QQsacat ZQ2d1QQsacurZ0QQsadisZ200QQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ0QQsaslopZ1QQsofocusZbs)'s a link, just shows what can happen when you get two people who really want something that really isn't worth much.

Cool As Ice Cream

08-09-2005, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by Drunkenmaster
It's on dimeadozen and it's the full show. Good quality, too. In FLAC It doesn't appear to be on dimeadozen.

Just mentioning.

rudicollins

08-09-2005, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
It doesn't appear to be on dimeadozen.

Just mentioning.

you can find a flawlessly remastered version at the Zomb.
http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=1757
01 Lyric
02 Yeah
03 Love Lies in Ruin
04 For Your Love
05 Come with Me
06 Riverview
07 Endless Summer
08 Desire
09 Of a Broken Heart
10 Friends as Lovers, Lovers as Friends
11 Jesus, I - Mary Star Of The Sea
12 Honestly

maybe THE best Zwan recording

Drunkenmaster

08-09-2005, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by rudicollins
you can find a flawlessly remastered version at the Zomb.
http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=1757
01 Lyric
02 Yeah
03 Love Lies in Ruin
04 For Your Love
05 Come with Me
06 Riverview
07 Endless Summer
08 Desire
09 Of a Broken Heart
10 Friends as Lovers, Lovers as Friends
11 Jesus, I - Mary Star Of The Sea
12 Honestly

maybe THE best Zwan recording Oops! That's what I meant.

Fab

08-09-2005, 06:58 PM

That one doesn't have the encore though.

Trickster

08-09-2005, 09:15 PM

I actually quite like the Zwan Hideout compilations as well, more acoustic stuff, it's a shame more of it wasn't released, since it was all videoed as well.

Drunkenmaster

08-09-2005, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by Fab
That one doesn't have the encore though. What was the encore?

Noshus Klam

08-10-2005, 05:55 AM

i think they played Zero and Disarm as encores.

Cool As Ice Cream

08-10-2005, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by Drunkenmaster
What was the encore? http://www.spfc.org/tours/date.html?tour_id=968

I posted this link before.

Saxton

08-14-2005, 12:02 AM

Yeah, A New Poetry. I like the version that's just Billy and the organ.

I also think "For Your Love" is a brilliant song and I secretley hope that it will be on Billy's acoustic record whenever that surfaces.