which smashing pumpkins song...

[pen1562001]

features the best drumming by Jimmy in your guys' opinion?

I'm burning a SP cd for a friend of mine, who is a drummer and I thought it would be appropriate to showcase Jimmy's talent throughout the homemade disc.

Lucky 13 and Rock On from Judas O come to my mind.

Any others?

[machina1]

snail
la dolly vita
geek
glass/ghost
cash car

[Evil Meanie]

Muzzle
Cherub Rock
Fuck You

I'm not much of a drum expert, so my opinion is completely useless, but there is just one little bit of Thru the Eyes of the Ruby, where Billy screams "ON THE YOUNG!!" where Jimmy does something on the drums that sounds really cool and impressed my drummer friend, although I never asked him why...

[Liam-M]

i agree with meanie
with maybe TEG also

[Mary Alice]

geek usa of course. I quite like the drums on Stand inside your Love too, but then again I'm not a drummer to qualify technically my liking them so much. But that was the first new Pumpkins song I heard since Adore. No one else sounds like him, and I heard that song and was like...JIMMY'S DRUMS...HE'S BACK. You could hear those drums and KNOW it was Jimmy even if no one told you he was back. Rae-Rae (Rae who used to post here and I miss a lot...) made me a mix CD that had the first live performance of Age of Innocence with Jimmy playing...the performance was before Machina came out even though it was after the Pumpkins last show before I heard it. That performance was hella incredible and Billy said after the song "See Jimmy, you are the difference"

I'm sure there are incredible live recordings of his drumming out there...look for a good live performance!

Jimmy's actually said that Mayonaise was hard to record and get the drums that smooth and it took like 5 million takes if that matters any...I've heard him talk most about Geek USA and Mayo as far as his drumming experiences. --MA

[pen1562001]

Originally posted by Liam-M
i agree with meanie
with maybe TEG also

heck yes! TEG has the best ending, drum-wise..and sort of guitar-wise..but mainly drums.

[Jackal]

I don't know. But he seems pretty darn good.

I know he's never mentioned on any list about good drummers. Or is he? Was he back then?

I've thought he was very tight. But maybe not innovative enough?

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by Mary Alice
geek usa of course. indeed.

also, i believe i've read an interview with jimmy where he called mary star of the sea very challenging to record, drum-wise.

[Chopstick]

Originally posted by Mary Alice
geek usa of course. I quite like the drums on Stand inside your Love too, but then again I'm not a drummer to qualify technically my liking them so much. But that was the first new Pumpkins song I heard since Adore. No one else sounds like him, and I heard that song and was like...JIMMY'S DRUMS...HE'S BACK. You could hear those drums and KNOW it was Jimmy even if no one told you he was back. Rae-Rae (Rae who used to post here and I miss a lot...) made me a mix CD that had the first live performance of Age of Innocence with Jimmy playing...the performance was before Machina came out even though it was after the Pumpkins last show before I heard it. That performance was hella incredible and Billy said after the song "See Jimmy, you are the difference"

I'm sure there are incredible live recordings of his drumming out there...look for a good live performance!

Jimmy's actually said that Mayonaise was hard to record and get the drums that smooth and it took like 5 million takes if that matters any...I've heard him talk most about Geek USA and Mayo as far as his drumming experiences. --MA Tribute to Johnny has that drum solo. But I'm not really a big fan of that song. Oh, and Cash Car Star is totally Jimmy's song.

[Plastichio]

FOR MARTAH

[Dressed for the H-Bomb]

Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
indeed.

also, i believe i've read an interview with jimmy where he called mary star of the sea very challenging to record, drum-wise.
I always thought that his drumming stood out more on that record than on the SP albums

[Chopstick]

Originally posted by The Lazy Architect
I always thought that his drumming stood out more on that record than on the SP albums
I think he said that songs like "Of A Broken Heart" were difficult because they were much more normal.

[inkblotter]

TOASE--He's hidden back in the track a little bit, maybe masked a little by the layer of effect on the vocals, but what he's doing is otherworldly.

[chrisothoulos]

tonight tonight is a good one too... But i think mary star of the sea should be on your little CD that is great drum work, not to mention one kick ass song.

[Liam-M]

Originally posted by inkblotter
TOASE

what songs this?

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by Liam-M
what songs this? tales of a scorched earth

[Evnk]

Originally posted by chrisothoulos
tonight tonight is a good one too... But i think mary star of the sea should be on your little CD that is great drum work, not to mention one kick ass song.

You should really get a live version of the extended mary star ... I was completely in awe of his drumming when I saw that.

[Pretentious Bread]

The whole of Gish
Silverfuck from Vieuphoria
Geek USA
Jellybelly
Rock on
Fuck you
Bodies
1979
Untitled

EDIT
I forgot:
La dolly vita
Cash Car star
Frail and Bedazzled

[Pretentious Bread]

Originally posted by The Lazy Architect
I always thought that his drumming stood out more on that record than on the SP albums

Me too and yet so many people called his drumming 'bland' on that album, fucking baffoons.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Fuck You from the final Metro show!

[Pretentious Bread]

Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
Fuck You from the final Metro show!

That is crazy fast. What amazes me most about his drumming is that even with his most impressive songs for drumming, you just know that he could play it almost twice as fast, LIVE. Unbelievable just to have the agility to do that and not to ever lose control. He's such a master of his drumkit, that's why I prefer him to Danny Carey. The drummers shouldn't be compared, yet everyone compares them but that's my view.

[upstatepumpkin]

hello kitty kat

[Zen Acolyte]

Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
Fuck You from the final Metro show!

yes, yes, yes.

I know it's not SP, but the drums in MSOTS are some of the best by JC.

[Fab]

I thought this was going to be some crappy "Which Smashing Pumpkins song are you?" type quiz.

[pen1562001]

Originally posted by chrisothoulos
tonight tonight is a good one too... But i think mary star of the sea should be on your little CD that is great drum work, not to mention one kick ass song.


tonight, tonight is too easy...he's just tapping on the rim of the snare during the verses. to me, it's more about the lyrics and the string section in that song.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by Fab
I thought this was going to be some crappy "Which Smashing Pumpkins song are you?" type quiz. ... and then you clicked it? :rolleyes:

"I'm Zero! I'm Zero!" ?

[Fab]

Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
... and then you clicked it? :rolleyes:

"I'm Zero! I'm Zero!" ? i didn't click it for days, but i got bored today and thought i might as well look.

[XenonDreams]

set the ray to jerry
porcelina
hello kitty kat
cash car star (the faster version whichever it is)

live stuff is obviously much better. mstos is also a good source, particularly lyric, mstos, and black swan endless summer lalalala.

[greenletter]

jerry
muzzle
cherub
everlasting gaze
Fuck You (Metro Show)
Untitled
Silverfuck (And version, but vieuphoria's pretty good.)
Soma (second half obviously)
SIYL

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by Fab
i didn't click it for days, but i got bored today and thought i might as well look. just teasing you. :-p

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by XenonDreams
mstos is also a good source, particularly lyric, mstos, and black swan endless summer lalalala. you mean la dee da?

[greenletter]

Someone pointed out 1979? That's a joke, right?

I mean that's mainly programming on that one.

[CrestfallenAlex]

Originally posted by pen1562001
tonight, tonight is too easy...he's just tapping on the rim of the snare during the verses. to me, it's more about the lyrics and the string section in that song.

I was surprised by this mention as well.

Someone else talked about the "ON THE YOUNG!!" part of TTEOR. I agree with that post.

[XenonDreams]

Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
you mean la dee da?


thats one of my favorite parts of the album