The machina concept doesnt die

[upstatepumpkin]

I think if/when the pumpkins get back together they have to continue with the whole machina concept. It became a part of the band and i dont think they should give up on it. Also, does anyone think that them breaking up, zwan forming, billy going solo, then the pumpkins reunting fits the machiona story in any way? ive thought a lot about that.

[Fab]

365 songs (http://spfc.org/songs-releases/song.html?song_type=1&song_display=), 365 days in a year. Coincidence? More like the missing part of the Machina Mystery!

[M O U T H]

Originally posted by Fab
365 songs (http://spfc.org/songs-releases/song.html?song_type=1&song_display=), 365 days in a year. Coincidence? More like the missing part of the Machina Mystery!


*Slap*

[Fab]

Aren't you my friend, Mouth, anymore?

[Mark E. De Sade]

...perhaps if we shotgun it...

[Telegram Sam]

Originally posted by upstatepumpkin
I think if/when the pumpkins get back together they have to continue with the whole machina concept. It became a part of the band and i dont think they should give up on it. Also, does anyone think that them breaking up, zwan forming, billy going solo, then the pumpkins reunting fits the machiona story in any way? ive thought a lot about that.

you've thought a lot about it? are you a fucking lunatic or something?

[PLEASE DON'T STEP ON ME]

Yeah, you obviously thought very long and hard about it.

[M O U T H]

Originally posted by Fab
Aren't you my friend, Mouth, anymore?

I am... I am...

Your Friend,
Mouth

P.S. Sorry I slapped you.

[Spaced]

I didn't like the whole Machina concept(after a while anyway). The whole thing of everyone wearing big black leather dresses just didn't do it for me.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by upstatepumpkin
I think if/when the pumpkins get back together they have to continue with the whole machina concept. Good for you.

[Herr Lipp]

What was the point of the Machina concept? No serious question, what was teh answer to it all? Seemed like needless tripe to me, I never really followed it to its conclusion.

[Noshus Klam]

http://neil.fraser.name/news/2002/stupid.jpg

[Evil Meanie]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
What was the point of the Machina concept? No serious question, what was teh answer to it all? Seemed like needless tripe to me, I never really followed it to its conclusion.

I enjoyed the Machina concept quite a bit. I thought that the chapters of the story were interesting to read, and very cool. However...the whole concept with Machina was the band breaking up. That was really all there was to it.

And as for the post about the Zwan, TheFutureEmbrace, and the SP reunion all fitting into the Machina concept, that is absolutely stupid, and if you believe that for one second, then you should be drug out into the street and shot. Billy Corgan is a smart guy, but he is not an all knowing deity.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by Evil Meanie
And as for the post about the Zwan, TheFutureEmbrace, and the SP reunion all fitting into the Machina concept, that is absolutely stupid, and if you believe that for one second, then you should be drug out into the street and shot. Billy Corgan is a smart guy, but he is not an all knowing deity. That's indeed a stupid idea. The Machina concept is about breaking up the band, not about forming others et cetera.

[Osceana]

Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
That's indeed a stupid idea. The Machina concept is about breaking up the band, not about forming others et cetera.

I think the Machina concept was not at all about breaking up a band. It was rather about "starting" a band and being a part of it to fight against all the careless ingrates in this world, but ultimately i think it's about Love.

Whenever i look at the last plate in the book though, i always get the impression that it is trying to convey the idea of someone (Glass, in this case) passing on a torch.

In any case, i don't think that it has to do with any one thing in particular- but it's underlying message of hope refutes any kind of focus on the band's disintegration.

But in response to the orignal topic, no, i assure you all of this is not a part of some wild and crazy story Billy has been scheming up and exacting on a day-by-day basis.

I mean, have you really thought this through as much as you say you have? I mean, imagine: "Okay, today makes exactly 1,000 days since the Pumpkins split up! Time to blame James and set in motion a long series of events inevitably leading to the glorious ressurection!!!"

Come now, Billy has more important things to do with his time than devise ways to play mind games with everyone in the entire world. He's just a rockstar, he's not a super-villain.

Besides, as he told me a few months back: "I've said all i want to say about June. I've no more to say on the matter."

I hope that clears things up for you.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by Osceana
Besides, as he told me a few months back: "I've said all i want to say about June. I've no more to say on the matter."

I hope that clears things up for you. I really hope nobody actually asked him about June. Please tell me nobody did.

[Jackal]

Hey, what did Billy say about June?

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by Jackal
Hey, what did Billy say about June? Nothing. And that's the whole story.

[Jackal]

He said it was too hot to wear long sleeves, I heard.

[PLEASE DON'T STEP ON ME]

Originally posted by Osceana
"I've said all i want to say about June. I've no more to say on the matter."

I hope you replied with "Bye June"

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by Jackal
He said it was too hot to wear long sleeves, I heard. He always wore long sleeves. Even when June was going to the moon. Leaving soon. Seeing her in June.

[Jackal]

Oh, I wish I knew more I could relply in a smart fashiion.

Or maybe not.:)