Molly...are you back from Scotland?

[Daysleeper]

...if so....how was it?

[Molly]

yes, darling, im back. got home yesterday.
it was fantastic. there are no words to describe how good it was. i have to go back asap. ive never had so much fun in my life. and it just felt..right. like i belonged there.

[Daysleeper]

Nice one....glad you had fun...I was in edinburgh for the make poverty history march....did you go to t in the park? That looked great, I wish I could've gone...I must go one year.

Do you think you could live in Scotland?

[Molly]

no, i couldnt go to t in the park. we had gone down to cornwall for awhile, and ended up there longer than we'd expected. which sucks, cause i had a ticket. my cousin had got it for me.
i could definitely live in scotland. its beautiful. i felt very comfortable there.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

off topic! :mad:

man, i miss these off topic threads. :cry:
how's everybody doing? i'm working and tired and sad but also fine.

[Trickster]

I quite like living here, but it always seems like whereever you don't live is better than where you do...

I went to T in the park - it was pretty rockin!

I was crowd-surfing to Queens of the Stone Age! :-D

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
man, i miss these off topic threads. :cry:

One off-topic thread can't be that bad. :-p

how's everybody doing? i'm working and tired and sad but also fine.

I'm watching shitloads of movies, going back to school this quarter finally, on vacation this week from work. Went down to see the side of my family that I'm closest to and haven't seen in a million years. Going to go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (tomorrow! Yay!), and the US Air Force Museum some time later this week. Lounging around. Wasting time.

Life is good. :)

PS. Glad you had a great time in Scotland. Europe is pretty awesome. Definitely different. (Did you meet up with any blamovians?)

[Drunkenmaster]

I finished my last day of class today. Maybe it'll be my last day of school for a while. I need to start making some money. Glad you made it back safely, Robyn:)

[Molly]

Originally posted by vordabois
One off-topic thread can't be that bad. :-p



I'm watching shitloads of movies, going back to school this quarter finally, on vacation this week from work. Went down to see the side of my family that I'm closest to and haven't seen in a million years. Going to go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (tomorrow! Yay!), and the US Air Force Museum some time later this week. Lounging around. Wasting time.

Life is good. :)

PS. Glad you had a great time in Scotland. Europe is pretty awesome. Definitely different. (Did you meet up with any blamovians?)
uh, werent off topic threads all the rage not too long ago? do we have to talk about pumpkins all the time now?

no, i cant say i did meet up with any blamovians. which is kinda too bad, but oh well.
hey, for those of you that live in north america, did you knwo that subway in scotland doesnt have sub sauce?!!? how badly does that suck?
mmmm, sub sauce...

[random girl]

Molly! I missed you, I'm glad you had a great time.

[Molly]

you got a new account! what happened?
im glad i had a great time. i was pretty antsy going, but i left there having met some great people, and making a new best friend(who i miss very much).

[Static Split Screen]

I think I want to live in Scotland one day.

Yesterday we went to Edinburgh and saw Will and Kendra! It was fun.

[Daysleeper]

I'm (hopefully) going to be living in Canada next year!

Did you have any haggis?...I love that stuff...only had it the once, mind...

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by vordabois
going back to school this quarter finally Wow, that's pretty crazy. How long have you been out of school? And what are you going to study now?

[Molly]

Originally posted by Daysleeper
I'm (hopefully) going to be living in Canada next year!

Did you have any haggis?...I love that stuff...only had it the once, mind... no. im vegetarian. and no, i didnt try vegetarian haggis. i dont really see the point in that.
i was horribly disgusted to learn of the existance of black pudding.

whereabouts in canda would you be living? go to british columbia.

hey laura, i want to live in scotland too. im looking into working there for a year. then, if i want to stay longer, it'll be easier.

[Static Split Screen]

vegetarian haggis is pretty foul.

I really want to go to university over here, but I'm too poor. I wish I had some rich relative or something:(

I'll probably move back over here after college or something though, so much better than America, though definately not weather-wise.

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
Wow, that's pretty crazy. How long have you been out of school? And what are you going to study now?

Been out for 3 years or something. It sucks. But oh well.

I'm gonna focus on social sciences right now, and I intend to narrow it down sometime later once I taste a little of each to find out which I like the most.

I'm looking at a Bachelor's in Economics, History (preferably American, right now) or Sociology.

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Static Split Screen
so much better than America

We NEED you here! We can't let people like Bush run the wealthiest nation in the world into the ground!

[Daysleeper]

Originally posted by Molly
no. im vegetarian. and no, i didnt try vegetarian haggis. i dont really see the point in that.
i was horribly disgusted to learn of the existance of black pudding.

whereabouts in canda would you be living? go to british columbia.

hey laura, i want to live in scotland too. im looking into working there for a year. then, if i want to stay longer, it'll be easier.

Yeah, vegetarian haggis seems a tad pointless!

Black pudding is great...didn't you even try any?

Will hopefully be in Vancouver...all things going to plan!

Sucks you couldn't go to T in the Park.

[Static Split Screen]

Originally posted by vordabois
We NEED you here! We can't let people like Bush run the wealthiest nation in the world into the ground!

I've given up on it, it needs to redeem itself in my eyes. Plus there's pretty castles here.

[Molly]

Originally posted by Daysleeper


Black pudding is great...didn't you even try any?


hahahahhahahaah!!!! i love you. you were the first person to make me laugh today. congrats!

yes, go to vancouver. go go go.
and yes, it does indeed suck that i couldnt go to t in the park. working on it for next year though.

[Static Split Screen]

Yeah we wanted to go to t in the park too, but we were too poor. Both Craig's brothers went, though.

[Daysleeper]

Originally posted by Molly
hahahahhahahaah!!!! i love you. you were the first person to make me laugh today. congrats!

yes, go to vancouver. go go go.
and yes, it does indeed suck that i couldnt go to t in the park. working on it for next year though.

Ha...that's ok...I don't think I put togther the fact that you are vegetarian and the fact that black pudding is made out of pigs blood...meaning you really wouldn't want to try any...whoops!

Yeah, Vancouver...will hopefully be there by spring next year...all things going to plan!

Another Scottish stereotype...did you have any iron-bru?...I quite like it, not sure what it's flavoured with though...and apparently, it's good for hangovers...bonus!
:-D

[Static Split Screen]

I love Irn-Bru!

[Daysleeper]

Yeah, it's good stuff...god knows what they flavour it with though...wouldn't like to know actually...probably full of alsorts of rubbish...but at least it tastes good.
They do iron bru chew bars as well...you can get them for about 10p..they're ok...quite tangy, but don't even comapre to the drink!

[Herr Lipp]

Irn-Bru's teh fucking shit. Scotlands badass, Im half Scottish, except my mums from a ghetto, which is still cool, but theres no castles around there. But even getting teh train up there is nice going through the mountains or through meadows with loads of cowz and sheepz and stuff. I'd like to go to the Highlands one day.

ah fuck it at least scotland has weather. california every day hot and sunny. tomorrow hot and sunny. the day after hot and sunny. what are you freakin lizards?! (bill hicks ripoff)

vordabois: you may be the wealthiest nation in the world, but people who have a chip on their shoulder about that are lame-asses. and for such a large, well equipped army it's pretty crap man. america can't win wars on it's own.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
america can't win wars on it's own. apparently you forgot about that war on terror!

[Herr Lipp]

oh yeah *slaps forehead*

how many years ago was it that American Dude said: "Ladies and Gentleman.....WE GOT 'EM!" fucking retard. They wanna hurry up and train/tool the Iraqi army up, if that even is teh reason theyre staying there (bullshit is it)

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Beat all the countries in the axis of evil and terrorism will be gone. It's as simple as that. DUH!!! Better be supportive, you democracy hater! :hate:

[Herr Lipp]

sorry.

(i first thought your post said 'beat all the countries in the ass of evil')

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
(i first thought your post said 'beat all the countries in the ass of evil') YEAH THOSE TOO!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: Fookin' terourists!

[Static Split Screen]

Originally posted by Daysleeper
Yeah, it's good stuff...god knows what they flavour it with though...wouldn't like to know actually...probably full of alsorts of rubbish...but at least it tastes good.
They do iron bru chew bars as well...you can get them for about 10p..they're ok...quite tangy, but don't even comapre to the drink!

Evidently Irn Bru has 32 flavors in it or something. I figure I don't want to know.

[Molly]

mmmmmm, irn bru....sooo good.
and yes, it is a wonderful hangover cure. used it many many many times while i was there.
the irn bru bar is great. it doesnt really taste much like irn bru. its really sour. but i love sour.

[Daysleeper]

ah...yes...get drunk on tennants recover with irn-bru...

The bars remind me of school as I used to buy them on the way home from school..still buy them now along with refresher bars and vimto bars.

[Molly]

Originally posted by Daysleeper
ah...yes...get drunk on tennants recover with irn-bru...

The bars remind me of school as I used to buy them on the way home from school..still buy them now along with refresher bars and vimto bars. eww tennants is dreadful.
i got hooked on carling while i was there. it reminded me the most of canadian beer.

[Daysleeper]

Originally posted by Molly
eww tennants is dreadful.
i got hooked on carling while i was there. it reminded me the most of canadian beer.

Candian beer must be gross then :-p

At least you didn't drink stella...

[Molly]

Originally posted by Daysleeper
Candian beer must be gross then :-p

At least you didn't drink stella... i did have to drink stella. we drink stella here too. i dont care for it, but eh, if its around...well, i'd rather be drunk than not drunk.

[Daysleeper]

Originally posted by Molly
well, i'd rather be drunk than not drunk.

I like you!!!!

Indeed! :beer: :bop:

[Cool As Ice Cream]

What's wrong with Stella?

In my opinion it's a decent regular beer, nothing special. But not bad at all.

Is it true you have to pay a lot for Stella?

[Molly]

i dont know about the us, but its not expensive in canada or scotland.

[Fab]

Ugh, Carling, i'll only ever drink it if it's really cheap and I have not much money, which it usually is and I usually don't. I'f I'm feeling extravagent, I'll drink Grolch.

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
and for such a large, well equipped army it's pretty crap man. america can't win wars on it's own.

Boy, this statement is just... yikes.

Wisen up on the realities of the world for goodness sake... One-nation stints -- unilateral action -- will never win a culturally-based war now or any time in the future. I don't care who you are, you won't succeed.

Why do you think I was against some multi-national coalition and was pushing for a UN mandate as a requirement? It's because I realize that it's foolish for one nation to try and finish another government off as long as a significant amount of the society they are attempting to commandeer fervently believes in it, and/or the globe is largely against it.

And I feel as though winning a war like that has nothing to do with the capabilities of an armed force. No armed force can win on its own since industrialization and the rise of a global economic market. Every army is crap now! It's all ideological.

But if you wanna compare on just a practical basis (disregarding the dogma behind it, basing your judgement simply on raw capability), well, I think it's enough to simply say:

If the US armed forces can't do this thing with Iraq, there is no other military in the world that could.

The weakness is in our presidential leadership. The weakness is not the armed forces.

[Drunkenmaster]

I think we can all agree that the UN doesn't have too much clout these days. They've got their own problems to deal with before they can start telling other people what to do.

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Drunkenmaster
I think we can all agree that the UN doesn't have too much clout these days. They've got their own problems to deal with before they can start telling other people what to do.

Well, to be more specific, I was alluding to all those with real political ties to the people of Iraq... The nations surrounding it. Those are the ones that would have made a difference.

Not one them were members of the multi-national coalition.

To take that a bit further, though, we really never had a chance to gain them as true allies. If the UN had been involved, a significant amount of the people of those surrounding nations would have considered supporting it a bit more. And you could bet that the people in Iraq would be much more at ease than they ended up being.

[Molly]

Originally posted by The Twilite Kid
hey molly. im totally drunk. whos molly anyway i'm molly. hi.

[Static Split Screen]

I tried Stella and it was foul.

[random girl]

Originally posted by Static Split Screen
I tried Stella and it was foul. It's not that bad. You should try magic hat #9 though. mmmmmmmm apricots.

I just saw your message molly, I couldn't remember my password, so i just started a new account. :darn: It was during my cure phase.

[Molly]

dont worry. i like your name. it gets that song in my head everytime i see it.

[Daysleeper]

Originally posted by Static Split Screen
I tried Stella and it was foul.

Stella is minging....and it contains a chemical that makes you mean and violent, which is why it's nicknamed wife beater!

[sleepy sinner]

Welcome back Robyn, I'm glad you had a good time.

-Lex

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by Daysleeper
and it contains a chemical that makes you mean and violent alcohol?

yeah, beer can contain that sometimes...

[Trickster]

Random pictures around Edinburgh as part of a stupid challenge - http://fringesigns.50webs.com

:)

[Daysleeper]

Originally posted by Cool As Ice Cream
alcohol?

yeah, beer can contain that sometimes...

Ha...I wondered who would be the first person to say that!!!

Alcohol makes me silly and want to dance!

[Molly]

Originally posted by The Twilite Kid
haha. i cant even remember posting that. i was at a party and thought it would be funny to post something. guess not. sorry molly! and hi! heh. you obviously dont know anything about me. you must be mighty new.
hi lex!!!! i miss ye! how have you been? email me, keep me posted on whats going on. especially in the boy department.

[sleepy sinner]

Yes dear I'll email you for sure very soon, hopefully like tomorrow avo. At the moment I'm having a quick procrastinate before I have to pull 1000 words out of my ass for tomorrow's class. I'm screwed! Leaving blamo...now! :)

I'm trying very hard not to be too revolting about the boy, but the synopsis is I'm very happy :)

[sleepy sinner]

:) :D :)

[sleepy sinner]

Except of course you and Justin are still my favourite lovers! Wink.

[Herr Lipp]

Originally posted by vordabois


fuckin hell save the essay for a teacher or something man. I based my point on the past, i.e. real facts. Every war America has gone it alone in, has lost. It's still a great army, Im not knocking that. But it's not brilliant. Like Vietnam for christs sake, that was a pathetic war wasn't it? How many bombs were dropped by america compared to vietnam? how many more US fully armed soldiers were there? and many children and women were raped by your hick soldiers, perhaps in retaliation. who knows.

Paul: Stell's lush for a standard beer. Can;t think of anything better, except maybe Cobra. Grolsch is alright but Id have Stella anyday. Belgium beats Holland and Britain for it's beers. And France. But Germany make some shit-hot 9% beers which are just badass. Indian beers, like cobra, are different altogether. but very enjoyable.

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
fuckin hell save the essay for a teacher or something man. I based my point on the past, i.e. real facts. Every war America has gone it alone in, has lost. It's still a great army, Im not knocking that. But it's not brilliant. Like Vietnam for christs sake, that was a pathetic war wasn't it? How many bombs were dropped by america compared to vietnam? how many more US fully armed soldiers were there? and many children and women were raped by your hick soldiers, perhaps in retaliation. who knows.

Uh, we've not lost a single war.

Not one.

You really need to brush up on your "real facts".

We were winning the war in Vietnam. We devastated their forces during the Tet Offensive. Absolutely devastated. That was their last gasp, and even though they incurred substantial losses and were essentially croppled, the NVA succeeded in their real objective... To make people in America sick of all the casualties enough to think "all right, that's enough dead, it's not worth it no matter how bright the future looks."

[sleepy sinner]

Nope. It doesn't matter what spin you put on the politics of the day, America physically (according to the kinetics and legal declarations of modern warfare), lost the war in Vietnam. They could not sustain an army in the country that was capable of being victorious, either through brute numbers OR adequate tactical decisions. They barged in knowing nothing about tropical guerilla warfare and were decimated - this even after Agent Orange and Napalm. They couldn't even define the aims of the war for themselves properly. If it was to defeat communism, it obviously failed in its objective. And basically you tend to lose a war when the opposing army is on its way to the principal occupied city and last stand of your forces and you decide to withdraw. Bye bye. You suck. Besides, the government pulled forces out after ignoring years of anti-war protests. If the government was so affected by what people in America wanted they could have withdrawn years before.

Did America even win the first Gulf War? Saddam Hussein was still in power after invading a foreign country. Some would say that was a failure too, they didn't even grab him for UN trial. It was getting a bit too much of a mess for the Allies again, if I remember correctly.

[Herr Lipp]

hey, I was only yanking your chain but I do need to say this:

a) you think the american people and their whingeing decided to make the army pull out of the war? ha ha ha as if america is some sort of democracy! :lol:

b) you make it sound like you were winning for many years, this is wrong. In the very beginnings you had the help of British and French forces, that needs to be said. When Britain realised this was nothing to do ending tyranny in vietnam, they pulled out. You will notice that from this point forward american casualties grew subsequently

c) so americans count women and children in their body count now?? laughable. any decent army would be more bothered about killing their enemy, not the enemies wives and kids. You didnt have the skills for jungle warfare, and bombs didnt work, you only killed helpless children etc etc. there were thousands of VC laughing at your troops, as they picked them off unit by unit.

yo man, I dont want you to think Im 100% serious in these posts :) I just like reading your rebuttles.

[vordabois]

Originally posted by sleepy sinner
Nope. It doesn't matter what spin you put on the politics of the day, America physically (according to the kinetics and legal declarations of modern warfare), lost the war in Vietnam. They could not sustain an army in the country that was capable of being victorious, either through brute numbers OR adequate tactical decisions. They barged in knowing nothing about tropical guerilla warfare and were decimated - this even after Agent Orange and Napalm. They couldn't even define the aims of the war for themselves properly. If it was to defeat communism, it obviously failed in its objective. And basically you tend to lose a war when the opposing army is on its way to the principal occupied city and last stand of your forces and you decide to withdraw. Bye bye. You suck. Besides, the government pulled forces out after ignoring years of anti-war protests. If the government was so affected by what people in America wanted they could have withdrawn years before.

Did America even win the first Gulf War? Saddam Hussein was still in power after invading a foreign country. Some would say that was a failure too, they didn't even grab him for UN trial. It was getting a bit too much of a mess for the Allies again, if I remember correctly.

Um, well then...

When you are at war, you have objectives. And when you meet those objectives, you are succeeding.

Now, in direct contradiction of your claims, our objective was totally and blaringly obvious, and I'd believe that a person would have to be purposefully blind to miss it... It's common sense. Our job was to hold the NVA off of the ARVN forces and protect their democracy. We never faltered in this. The borders never changed despite incessent assults from the NVA that lasted over a decade.

We did not invade the North because that wasn't our goal.

Jesus.

And yes, we most certainly left because of anti-war sentiment here at home. Good God, just look at who ran for president, what their stances were, and look who got elected. Nixon promised to end the war through Vietnamization, and he was awarded one of the biggest landslide re-elections in American political history in 1972...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/94/ElectoralCollege1972-Large.png

[sleepy sinner]

My point is that physically and legally you can not claim to have 'won' the war because the opposing forces successfully invaded and occupied the territories you were protecting (and invaded yourself), which negated the claim to 'never falter' in protecting the democracy of the south. A withdrawal is the same as a surrender, the Americans were just too cocky to call it that. Besides, the political justifications offered at the time for the war referred far more to preventing the spread of communism due to it's perceived threat to Western interests than any noble cause to protect Post-Colonial Asian democracy. Basically America fought a war for itself on the soil of another country. The aim was purely selfish. They couldn't come up with any actual valid justification for doing it because the hard fact is that war benefited no-one, least of all the Vietnamese.

I never said it was the goal to invade the North. It was the goal to protect the South and you willingly surrendered from that goal.

This = you lost. Or at the very least you definately did not 'win'

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
hey, I was only yanking your chain but I do need to say this:

a) you think the american people and their whingeing decided to make the army pull out of the war? ha ha ha as if america is some sort of democracy! :lol:

See map above.

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
b) you make it sound like you were winning for many years, this is wrong. In the very beginnings you had the help of British and French forces, that needs to be said. When Britain realised this was nothing to do ending tyranny in vietnam, they pulled out. You will notice that from this point forward american casualties grew subsequently

French forces, you mean. The British returned the area to France soon after WW2 ended, and France tried to re-establish them as a colony, and that's when things got hairy. The French withdrew and we took over citing the "domino effect" of communism that hypothetically could endanger democracy. (Bullshit, I know, but that was the reason. Obviously, I would have been amongst the anti-war crowd for this one because that notion is just retarded and reeks of fabrication and exaggeration.)

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
c) so americans count women and children in their body count now?? laughable. any decent army would be more bothered about killing their enemy, not the enemies wives and kids. You didnt have the skills for jungle warfare, and bombs didnt work, you only killed helpless children etc etc. there were thousands of VC laughing at your troops, as they picked them off unit by unit.

What's this about counting innocents? Vietnam's Ministry of Labor, War Invalids and Social Affairs released figures on April 3, 1995, reporting that 1.1 million fighters -- Viet Cong guerrillas and North Vietnamese soldiers were killed between 1954 and 1975.

US counts of ARVN and US soldier deaths stands at 287,232 killed.

[Herr Lipp]

thats gay for 2 reasons 1) if thats how many VC got whacked I wonder how many women and children did too? 2) thats a terrible number of american soldiers to get killed, i didnt know it was that much. such a shame.#

hey vordabois what do you study at college/uni?

[Molly]

how did this happen to a thread about me?!?!?!
oh vietnam, you just insist on upstaging me everytime.

[Stevie Nicks]

America eh? My uncle was in Virginia a week or two ago doing something pointless related to Irish history. He said a lot of the people looked inbred, which is weird. And the security at the airports was really, really tight and quite intimidating.

[Herr Lipp]

Not like Dublin then. Me and my friend lee each had an eighth of weed round our gooches and didnt even get patted down.

I reckon Americans sound A LOT like southern irish people. Except american accents are more boring, no seriously you have to put a bland slant on a lot of the vowel sounds, I was trying it out when I was drunk round my cousins house in dublin.

[Stevie Nicks]

After Vietnam the Domino Effect didn't really occur-they did contain communism in South East Asia mostly. The US public thought for example that the Tet Offensive made the war impossible to win because of how it was portrayed in the media, even though it was considered a failure by the Vietcong. The media almost played the role of govt oppostion.

"Overnight one TV correspondent with one cameraman could become as important as ten or twenty senators".

[Stevie Nicks]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
I reckon Americans sound A LOT like southern irish people. Except american accents are more boring, no seriously you have to put a bland slant on a lot of the vowel sounds, I was trying it out when I was drunk round my cousins house in dublin.

Southern Irish people sound cool, I've got an auntie from Sligo who sounds really neat.:-p

[Static Split Screen]

Getting back on topic: I'm going to Loch Ness tomorrow!

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
1) if thats how many VC got whacked I wonder how many women and children did too? 2) thats a terrible number of american soldiers to get killed, i didnt know it was that much. such a shame.#

hey vordabois what do you study at college/uni?

1) the 1995 release states that nearly 2 million civilians lost their lives in the North and the South between 1954 and 1975.

2) yeah, that war was seriously fucked up. The similarities of that conflict to this deal with Iraq are striking, but key things keep it different... Mainly, the NVA were at least in part supplied by a behemoth, China, whereas Saddam went it virtually alone. And, the USSR supposedly stayed out of it, but it's pretty much assumed that they used China to funnel their supplies to the NVA. Also, we didn't invade the south and topple their government and create a new one (which is, of course, a huge difference).

In college, for me, I'm doing some sort of social science. I don't know which yet, but it's going to either be history, economics or sociology.


Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
I reckon Americans sound A LOT like southern irish people. Except american accents are more boring, no seriously you have to put a bland slant on a lot of the vowel sounds, I was trying it out when I was drunk round my cousins house in dublin.

I've always wondered how other countries imitate our version of english.

:-p

So I have a question for you, cuz I've heard stuff about it in British pop culture but I never quite understood...

How many (major) distinct accents are there in the UK?

I know you have the Scottish and the Irish accent, but I've heard something about a "northern" accent, and it's talked about like it's very pronounced... Is there a southern? Are there others?

[Molly]

Originally posted by Static Split Screen
Getting back on topic: I'm going to Loch Ness tomorrow! thats very exciting! make sure you tell us all about it.

[Herr Lipp]

Originally posted by vordabois
So I have a question for you, cuz I've heard stuff about it in British pop culture but I never quite understood...

How many (major) distinct accents are there in the UK?

I know you have the Scottish and the Irish accent, but I've heard something about a "northern" accent, and it's talked about like it's very pronounced... Is there a southern? Are there others?

Holy shit bruv! We have so many accents you wouldnt believe. It goes far beyond regional variations as people 30 miles away could use completely different grammar, words or phrases as their neighbours. Off the top of my head, here are just a few of the distinct accents I can think of (bearing in mind Britain is smaller than texas).

London aka Cockney. (this even changes depending on what part of london youre from e.g. grania (wasp in a jar - who I imagine to sound a bit like Liz Hurley cos shes posh) from north london would sound far different to Dizzee Rascal (from East London).

Essex/Kent - this is my accent :) Im from the South East of England. closest to londons accent, but we have a few differences. you're most likely to hear "AWWWWITE MAAAIT" (ALRIGHT, MATE) round this area. birthplace of teh "chav" which you may have heard about. (chavscum.co.uk

Scouse i.e. Liverpool accent - The Beatles
Geordie i.e. Newcastle/Sunderland accent - very distinct northern accent. but cant think of any famous people youd know that were
geordies.
Manchester/Leeds accent - another northern one. heard of Oasis? they are from Manchester.
Brummie i.e. Birmingham accent - Midlands of England. An extremely funny accent, which makes the people sound retarded but its all good :) cant think of any famous people you'd know
Welsh accent - Wales is its own country which no american ever realises. They have their own language and their own accent. But they speak English aswell.
General midlands accent - This covers Nottingham and a few other places in the middle of england. pretty standard accent. Daysleeper is from round this way. Theres nothing funny or embarassing about this accent
West Country i.e. Cornwall - the west of country. these people sound like inbreds ha ha. Nah not really they have a lot of farmers and shit and impressions of west country folk usually involve tractors

man that was so boring! Theres a whole lot more but I feel without being able to give you examples of people you'd just be swamped with info!! but yeah the american accent I do now by setting my irish accent up and then shortening the vowel sounds. I bet you, being american, could do a half-convincing irish accent?

[Herr Lipp]

Oh Catherine Zeta Jones is Welsh, but she sounds fucked up now that shes been in hollywood for ages.

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Molly
thats very exciting! make sure you tell us all about it.

Scotland is so beautiful. The whole island is.

It was strange, and maybe you noticed this too, Molly, if you had a window seat on the plane...

When I went to Germany, we flew in this little-r plane from Columbus Int'l to Chicago O'Hare, and then we went in this British Airways 747 from Chicago O'Hare to Heathrow, London. (It was the first time I'd flown in a plane, believe it or not, and I was 17. It was so kick-ass.) Anyways, the whole flying thing was new to me, so when we were going over Indiana to Chicago, I looked out the window and down, and I couldn't believe it... EVERYTHING is freaking square! Like, all of our properties are plotted in these gigantic squares, all perfect-like. Being mostly farmland in Indiana, these squares stood out. Rivers and creeks came and went, but they played basically no part in our boundaries between property at all. It was quite evident that when our country was being settled by Europeans, they purposely set out to keep everything all nice, neat and orderly as far as land management.

And then, after about 10 hours in that plane from Chicago, we made it across the Atlantic, and looking 40,000 feet down, England's coastline appeared.

Damn, I noticed it immediately, the oddest thing... every bit of land I saw was in freaking chaos as far as borders were concerned. Roads went willy-nilly wherever they wanted to, streams defined property lines, and even farmland contained no sense of order whatsoever. It was like this huge jigsaw puzzle.


I dunno, it was just one of my weird observations. Kinda made me realize a bit more how young (and big) our nation is. We could afford to do that, but those folks in England live in a place that was inhabited before land management even became an issue. I think that plays a big part in the land's overall beauty. Ours is so boring... Form following function... just bland.

[Molly]

Originally posted by vordabois
Scotland is so beautiful. The whole island is.

It was strange, and maybe you noticed this too, Molly, if you had a window seat on the plane...

When I went to Germany, we flew in this little-r plane from Columbus Int'l to Chicago O'Hare, and then we went in this British Airways 747 from Chicago O'Hare to Heathrow, London. (It was the first time I'd flown in a plane, believe it or not, and I was 17. It was so kick-ass.) Anyways, the whole flying thing was new to me, so when we were going over Indiana to Chicago, I looked out the window and down, and I couldn't believe it... EVERYTHING is freaking square! Like, all of our properties are plotted in these gigantic squares, all perfect-like. Being mostly farmland in Indiana, these squares stood out. Rivers and creeks came and went, but they played basically no part in our boundaries between property at all. It was quite evident that when our country was being settled by Europeans, they purposely set out to keep everything all nice, neat and orderly as far as land management.

And then, after about 10 hours in that plane from Chicago, we made it across the Atlantic, and looking 40,000 feet down, England's coastline appeared.

Damn, I noticed it immediately, the oddest thing... every bit of land I saw was in freaking chaos as far as borders were concerned. Roads went willy-nilly wherever they wanted to, streams defined property lines, and even farmland contained no sense of order whatsoever. It was like this huge jigsaw puzzle.


I dunno, it was just one of my weird observations. Kinda made me realize a bit more how young (and big) our nation is. We could afford to do that, but those folks in England live in a place that was inhabited before land management even became an issue. I think that plays a big part in the land's overall beauty. Ours is so boring... Form following function... just bland.
thats because a lot of their roads were built there after there were already buildings in place. they were building around things. in north america, we built our roads and then our buildings. so we have a grid pattern. actually, glasgow had one of the first grid patterns set up. the main part of downtown is mostly square.
thats part of the reason why i could never drive in britain. theres no way i'd be able to figure out where i was going cause i think the roads are so illogical.

[Fab]

Originally posted by Molly
thats very exciting! make sure you tell us all about it. it's really not, not more than any other loch anyway, it's very scenic but that's about it.

[Molly]

Originally posted by Fab
it's really not, not more than any other loch anyway, it's very scenic but that's about it. good going, lowry buzzkill. she's excited about going somewhere new. and im trying to live vicariously through her cause i fucking miss scotland.
boo on you for trying to spoil our fun.

[Fab]

Originally posted by Molly
good going, lowry buzzkill. she's excited about going somewhere new. and im trying to live vicariously through her cause i fucking miss scotland.
boo on you for trying to spoil our fun. the actual loch's no fun, but some of the nessie museums in the towns nearby are.


better?:)

[Herr Lipp]

Originally posted by Molly
thats because a lot of their roads were built there after there were already buildings in place.

hmm I dont know if its like that, cos usually there are crappy roads first which get tarmacced over and become phat roads. Then again I dont know about Scotland....

Where I live (and this includes London/Cambridge and Oxford a lot of our roads were first built by the Romans so ya know we have to follow path they took, as buildings blatantly wouldve been built around them.

[Molly]

Originally posted by Fab
the actual loch's no fun, but some of the nessie museums in the towns nearby are.


better?:) yes, much better.

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Molly
thats part of the reason why i could never drive in britain. theres no way i'd be able to figure out where i was going cause i think the roads are so illogical.

I think it'd be rough because of the "driving on the other side of the road" thing, too. :-p

[XenonDreams]

Originally posted by vordabois
Ours is so boring... Form following function... just bland.

dude you live in ohio! while the lay out of our towns and cities is usually pretty lame, obviously there's lots of fantastic wilderness. my recent experience driving across the country informs me that everything between the appalachins and the rockies is pretty dismal. however the west coast and parts of the northeast are pretty fantastic. as for places where people live, seattle is one of the most fantasitically beautiful cities in the world, especially for one so young (relative to europe).

i went out to some english down on the west-ish coast once though, and i admit it would be a really awesome place to live.

i think the problem with america is that there's enough space that we don't have to get creaitve building towns on hillsides and stuff, so yeah, there you go.

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
grania (wasp in a jar - who I imagine to sound a bit like Liz Hurley cos shes posh) from north london
gra isnt from north london.

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by XenonDreams
i think the problem with america is that there's enough space that we don't have to get creaitve building towns on hillsides and stuff, so yeah, there you go.
Frisco?

Seriously, the layout of towns is the biggest difference between Europe and the US.

[Molly]

Originally posted by vordabois
I think it'd be rough because of the "driving on the other side of the road" thing, too. :-p nope, you get used to that pretty quickly cause everyone else is doing it as well.

[Static Split Screen]

Originally posted by Molly
nope, you get used to that pretty quickly cause everyone else is doing it as well.

Yeah, I don't want to drive when I come back, I'll be so confused.

Loch Ness was gorgeous, it was all misty and pretty. And we did this walk-through museum thing about Nessie, whom I don't think exists.

I think we're going to wales next week (the last week of the happiest summer of my life :(:cry:)

[Herr Lipp]

Originally posted by Narcissistic Nihilist
gra isnt from north london.

what was i thinking, west london is the posh side. north londons full of coloureds :no:

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
what was i thinking, west london is the posh side. north londons full of coloureds :no:
oh, wrong again. Your ignorance of the capital is outstanding.

[Static Split Screen]

YO.

[Mary Alice]

ok Walter 2 bits of beef with your generalizing

1)Americans don't realize Wales is it's own country and has it's own language? But that they speak English too? Oh really? Lots of Americans aren't as ignorant as others might want to make us seem and I've loved learning about different parts of the world since I was a kid. I knew when I was in Kindergarten that Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland were part of the UK but had their separate identities and histories and don't call them Brits. I know they have their own political parties supporting their countries' rights and Scotland even recently got it's own Parliament. If you like to read, believe it or not it's not hard to get ahold of books in America and learn that kind of stuff. Also I had a globe as a kid, first thing I ever bought with my own money saved up from the tooth fairy and gifts from my Grandma. As far as other languages Scotland used to have it's own form of Gaelic, right? And I know people used to speak Cornish a long time ago too - I think it was in Cornwall and I think that's in the south of England? Am I right? I could look it up, the info is available. There are different languages that used to be spoken here in the south, too. There are still Seminole Indians living here in Florida that can still speak Seminole. Also in some parts of the South Carolina coast the descendants of slaves used to speak Gullah - a creole of old Southern English and African languages. It's dying out but I just saw a cooking show with a woman who speaks Gullah the other day on Food Network and I've sold some of her cookbooks at my store. There was also a kids show called Gullah Gullah island that taught about that culture as well - so the language is dying but many people have a general knowledge that the culture once existed. In Louisiana some people still speak a version of French. Maybe you know those things, maybe you don't.

Yes, some Americans are woefully lacking in the basics but you can't generalize. If there is something that we don't know it just might be for the same reason there are things you might not know about America - you just haven't heard about them. Ignorance to me is not just "not knowing" something...it's not caring that you don't know. And I do care about knowing as much as I can about the rest of the world. So I hate hearing American mentioned as a generalization (Americans don't know this...for example) Ignorant people exist everywhere in every culture - why assume someone is just because of where they are from?

I've actually seen Welsh before in books so I know what it looks like but if I didn't you think I could hang around this messageboard with all you UKers and remain ignorant? Danny and other members like the Manic Street Preachers enough and mention them so constantly that I'd be dumb to not know what Wales it just from the number of times people have talked about that Welsh band.

2) military hicks? There are bad seeds in every group, the Abu Ghraib (sp?) idiodacy was wrong and an embarrasment to many in the military - most of them hold themselves to much higher standards than that. My dad is retired Navy, I used to date a guy in the Navy and they are generally quality nice people who want to do some good. They see it as a way to make a difference and in my mind they haven't recieved the Civillian leadership they deserve from the president - they are trained to do what they're told. Most of them join to defend the country and want to represent the US well, not as "hicks." My ex was from Puerto Rico by the way, and not Puerto Rican American...born and raised on the Island. The military is made up of quite a diverse population. They usually want to be good family people and make a decent living and are generally very respectful types. The disgusting ones are a minority I can assure you - I probably know many more American military people than you do. I just think that was another unfair generalization.

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Mary Alice
I just saw a cooking show with a woman who speaks Gullah the other day on Food Network and I've sold some of her cookbooks at my store.

You own a book store?!

:yes:

[Molly]

Originally posted by Static Split Screen
YO. awwww. thats an awesome pic.

[Herr Lipp]

Oh Fuck Off Mary Alice you twat, I'll generalise all I want. WHo are you to say anything to me, when you get your kicks from American Football cheerleader songs featuring calculus. You fucking mug. You can have a go at me when you get a life you loser :lol:

Your own President didnt even know about Wales! So I'd say my generalisation is fairly fucking grounded. You're retarded beyond belief to think that everything I put is deadly serious. Then again, you are fucking american. No concept of humour unless it features shouting or swear words. Prick!

The Manic Street Preachers, like the majority of Welsh people are fucking sheep-shagging, wax-coat wearing, sisters-fanny-rubbing, stupid-sounding, moaning, wannabee-english bellends. ( :lol: ) Thank fuck I have no welsh relatives, I'd probably end it. They're fucking up there with french people for fucking wiping out completely in my book. And arabs. no particular arabs, all of them would do. :-p

sieg fucking heil.

[Static Split Screen]

Molly (and anyone else who cares) I have a photobucket here (http://photobucket.com/albums/a290/lauraisneat/) with tons of pictures from all the places I've been, dunno if you've seen it. I've run out of space so I need to make another one, boo.

[Molly]

laura, those are great pics.
where did you take the one of edinburgh castle from?

[Mary Alice]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
Oh Fuck Off Mary Alice you twat, I'll generalise all I want. WHo are you to say anything to me, when you get your kicks from American Football cheerleader songs featuring calculus. You fucking mug. You can have a go at me when you get a life you loser :lol:

Your own President didnt even know about Wales! So I'd say my generalisation is fairly fucking grounded. You're retarded beyond belief to think that everything I put is deadly serious. Then again, you are fucking american. No concept of humour unless it features shouting or swear words. Prick!

The Manic Street Preachers, like the majority of Welsh people are fucking sheep-shagging, wax-coat wearing, sisters-fanny-rubbing, stupid-sounding, moaning, wannabee-english bellends. ( :lol: ) Thank fuck I have no welsh relatives, I'd probably end it. They're fucking up there with french people for fucking wiping out completely in my book. And arabs. no particular arabs, all of them would do. :-p

sieg fucking heil.

I didn't say I like the preachers btw only that they are mentioned here on Blamo quite a lot. And I think I just showed you the generalization isn't true. It's not that hard to say "most Americans" or "Many Americans" as opposed to "all Americans." And then there's the hick military thing which is also very untrue. I know lots of people do it but stereotypes and assumptions like that just rake my nerves to know end.

(sorry to ruin such a happy thread...y'all)

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
Oh Fuck Off Mary Alice you twat, I'll generalise all I want. WHo are you to say anything to me, when you get your kicks from American Football cheerleader songs featuring calculus. You fucking mug. You can have a go at me when you get a life you loser :lol:

Your own President didnt even know about Wales! So I'd say my generalisation is fairly fucking grounded. You're retarded beyond belief to think that everything I put is deadly serious. Then again, you are fucking american. No concept of humour unless it features shouting or swear words. Prick!

The Manic Street Preachers, like the majority of Welsh people are fucking sheep-shagging, wax-coat wearing, sisters-fanny-rubbing, stupid-sounding, moaning, wannabee-english bellends. ( :lol: ) Thank fuck I have no welsh relatives, I'd probably end it. They're fucking up there with french people for fucking wiping out completely in my book. And arabs. no particular arabs, all of them would do. :-p

sieg fucking heil.
Again, Im impressed of how wrong you can be in one post.

You should be in the circus with your incredible ignorance :lol:

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by Mary Alice
(sorry to ruin such a happy thread...y'all)
you didnt. The chav-scum did.

[Stevie Nicks]

You like The Holy Bible, Fraser?

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

He probably thinks youre talking about a book!

[Herr Lipp]

I'm sorry if some of you are too retarded to spot when I'm joking. :rolleyes:

Niall, I refuse to listen to any MSP albums after the atrocity that was This Is My Truth...... made me want to fucking kill myself. I cant stand student-rock, its so weak.

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
I'm sorry if some of you are too retarded to spot when I'm joking. :rolleyes:

Niall, I refuse to listen to any MSP albums after the atrocity that was This Is My Truth...... made me want to fucking kill myself. I cant stand student-rock, its so weak.
Thats because your jokes arent funny, and you really are a retard.

...so he's only heard one album. Thus proving his ignorance.

[Celluloid Love]

Originally posted by Narcissistic Nihilist
Thats because your jokes arent funny, and you really are a retard.

...so he's only heard one album. Thus proving his ignorance. One day you're gonna realize how full of shit you are.

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by Copywrite Nigga
One day you're gonna realize how full of shit you are.
Nope. One day you will look in the mirror and cry. Oh, you already do. :lol:

[Stevie Nicks]

When I was 10 or 11 (i was still at primary school) I bought This is My Truth because I liked the singles. I hope my age excuses me and it could have been worse (westlife or something). I almost bought the Holy Bible instead, that would have been pretty hardcore.

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by Niall
When I was 10 or 11 (i was still at primary school) I bought This is My Truth because I liked the singles. I hope my age excuses me and it could have been worse (westlife or something). I almost bought the Holy Bible instead, that would have been pretty hardcore.
Truth is their second worst album behind Lifeblood. It was half good, half bad.

Bible is just the most incredible album ever.

[Herr Lipp]

Originally posted by Narcissistic Nihilist
Thats because your jokes arent funny, and you really are a retard.


Incorrect. You are a retard.

(insert token smiley here)

[gangsta puffin]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
Incorrect. You are a retard.

(insert token smiley here)
I know youre obsessed with me, but just copying what I say is very poor indeed.

Sorry, I forgot you have the brain of a 3 year old. At least we know why.

-d

[Barbarian Love Elephant]

Niall,do you like the holy bible now? fraser listen to more than one album before you dismise them <\3 danny your jokes are getting lame,once more with effort please! :(

[Fab]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
I'm sorry if some of you are too retarded to spot when I'm joking. :rolleyes:

Niall, I refuse to listen to any MSP albums after the atrocity that was This Is My Truth...... made me want to fucking kill myself. I cant stand student-rock, its so weak. fucking get over yourself and listen to this (http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=25CE9J63SOIZG1WJ6G0U7W2S20), you don't have to like it but if you even try saying it's student rock, i'll lose what little value i hold of your opinion.

[Mary Alice]

Originally posted by vordabois
You own a book store?!

:yes:

No I just work in one. I probably call it my store because I wish I owned it :D

And those are nice pictures Laura - it looks beautiful out there.

[Stevie Nicks]

Originally posted by Ms.
Niall,do you like the holy bible now? fraser listen to more than one album before you dismise them <\3 danny your jokes are getting lame,once more with effort please! :(

Yeah well I always liked it now more so than ever. Last few weeks I've been listening to it a lot. The actual music which people don't really go on about is really good. I can't say anything about the lyrics, they're obviously crap compared to razorlight's etc.

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by Niall
I can't say anything about the lyrics, they're obviously crap compared to razorlight's etc.

[Celluloid Love]

Originally posted by Narcissistic Nihilist
Nope. One day you will look in the mirror and cry. Oh, you already do. :lol: That's classic Danny, and pretty original too, pat yourself on the back.

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Copywrite Nigga
That's classic Danny, and pretty original too, pat yourself on the back.

Is that phone number yours or someone else's?

I give you 24 hours to answer or remove it, and then you get the delete treatment.

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by Copywrite Nigga
That's classic Danny, and pretty original too, pat yourself on the back.
Yeah it was good, i know.

[Stevie Nicks]

johnny borrell wishes he was somewhere else :( So much so that he repeats his heroic wish about 15 times.

He looks all moody so he must be an enigma.

[Noshus Klam]

Originally posted by vordabois
Is that phone number yours or someone else's?

I give you 24 hours to answer or remove it, and then you get the delete treatment.

It's Feel The Funny's phone number. Are you able to ban people? If so, give him 24 minutes and bring on the ban!

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by Niall
johnny borrell wishes he was somewhere else :( So much so that he repeats his heroic wish about 15 times.

He looks all moody so he must be an enigma.
Johnny Borrell wishes he had a brain and wasnt so arrogant.

[Jackal]

Johnny Borell? Bible? Feel the funny. Phone numbers, fighting, bookstore ownership. Generalizations.

signed,
WTF

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Jackal
Johnny Borell? Bible? Feel the funny. Phone numbers, fighting, bookstore ownership. Generalizations.

signed,
WTF

What? Are you just going down all the recent threads and forcing yourself to make a comment in each?

[Jackal]

Yes. Yes I am.

I am bored. And drunk.

signed,
sorry

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Jackal
Yes. Yes I am.

I am bored. And drunk.

signed,
sorry

Fair enough. :)

I'm bored, too. Sitting here reading my copy of Half-Blood Prince for the first time. :-p

[Jackal]

Oh, That's Harry Potter. My son reads those, I've read the first one, it was good.

I wish I had written those. :(

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Jackal
Oh, That's Harry Potter. My son reads those, I've read the first one, it was good.

I wish I had written those. :(

I love them. With this newest release, I've spent my last four weeks or so re-reading all of them so I could refresh my memory. That fifth one's a doosy. New movie comes out on November 18th. :yes: How old is your son?!

And yeah, J.K. Rowling is freaking RICH! She used to be on the UK's public assistance program, but look at her now... damn.

[Jackal]

He's 10. He will read those books for 3 hours at a time!

I might just read them myself, I've seen the movies and they are pretty good.

[vordabois]

Originally posted by Jackal
He's 10. He will read those books for 3 hours at a time!

I might just read them myself, I've seen the movies and they are pretty good.

There are some pretty significant differences. Especially in the third one, Prisoner of Azkaban. The biggest difference, I think, is that they left out the part in the Shrieking Shack where Sirius tells Harry, Hermione and Ron everything about what he saw that night when Lily and James Potter were killed.

I'm eagerly anticipating the fourth movie, because it is, by far, the best book of all in terms of entertainment. There is some mighty promising action because Harry is selected for this thing called the "Tri-Wizard Tournament", the book is based around it.

[Herr Lipp]

Originally posted by Fab
fucking get over yourself and listen to this (http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=25CE9J63SOIZG1WJ6G0U7W2S20), you don't have to like it but if you even try saying it's student rock, i'll lose what little value i hold of your opinion.

shut up, hippy. I have enough good music at home, ta.

[Molly]

Originally posted by vordabois
Fair enough. :)

I'm bored, too. Sitting here reading my copy of Half-Blood Prince for the first time. :-p i cried while reading that book. its quite good. not my favourite though.
i cant wait for the next film. i think it'll be really good. they're improving now. the third was pretty damn awesome. the second i couldnt handle cause of fucking dobby. most irritating character of all time.

[Fab]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
shut up, hippy. I have enough good music at home, ta. Hippy? From that I take it you didn't listen to the hard rocking bitch of a song? So you're not willing get over yourself and look into one of the reasons people hold their back catalogue in such high esteem? Sir, your opinion on the Manics is meaningless.

[Herr Lipp]

shut up, hippy.

[Fab]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
shut up, hippy. This must be why you're such a popular and well respected poster and debator. Where the fuck are you getting hippy from? Or are you just doing a Danny and throwing insults out randomly?

[Herr Lipp]

shut up, hippy!

I dont like the manics, leave me alone, I dont want to listen to them :(

dont compare me to that.

[Fab]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
shut up, hippy!

I dont like the manics, leave me alone, I dont want to listen to them :(

dont compare me to that. YOU shut up, chav.

You've only listened to This is My Truth Tell Me Yours, which sounds nothing remotely like The Holy Bible or Generation Terrorists.

I'll compare you to Danny as long as you keep throwing insults and opinions around without justifying them.

[Herr Lipp]

for goodness sakes fab! havent you ever called someone a hippy before! that probably didnt have knee-length hair and was fucked on mescaline? Im taking the michael!

I'm sorry but I really don't think I will like any of the Manics shit 1) Ive heard all of their singles from teh last 10 years (I thought they were okay but its really not my genre) 2) I detest the fat bloke who sings. He looks like a cocky, fat welsh prick and I dont like his voice, even if he can make all the notes. 3) I really didnt like TIMT....

To each his own though man, to each his own. I could name 10 albums that you would rip the shit outta me for liking. Im not going to! :lol: But I could you know, dont take shit so seriously.

Oh and you are spiteful to me Fab, why? I dont even know your name! I'm surprised you even have an opinion of me (referring to your earlier post).

[Cool As Ice Cream]

I think it's ok to say TMS suck without listening to links Fab provides. I mean, this is the general feeling here: "Not interested. Why not? They suck. Next."

No need for justification.

[Fab]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
for goodness sakes fab! havent you ever called someone a hippy before! that probably didnt have knee-length hair and was fucked on mescaline? Im taking the michael!

I'm sorry but I really don't think I will like any of the Manics shit 1) Ive heard all of their singles from teh last 10 years (I thought they were okay but its really not my genre) 2) I detest the fat bloke who sings. He looks like a cocky, fat welsh prick and I dont like his voice, even if he can make all the notes. 3) I really didnt like TIMT....

To each his own though man, to each his own. I could name 10 albums that you would rip the shit outta me for liking. Im not going to! :lol: But I could you know, dont take shit so seriously.

Oh and you are spiteful to me Fab, why? I dont even know your name! I'm surprised you even have an opinion of me (referring to your earlier post). so you ARE just throwing insults around? classy

TIMT is nothing like their good stuff, I wasn't trying to make you like them, but was just trying to prove that they're not dull student rock.

I don't care what you like, I just don't take kindly to you describing one of the most vitriolic and impassioned bands of the 90's as dull student rock.

My name is Frank (my initials are FAB hence the name), I have an opinion of you since you're here an awful lot, whether it's accurate is another story, but it's impossible to say lots of stuff and not have people form an opinon of you, it's human nature.

[Herr Lipp]

I DO think it's student rock though...and it is! Thats nothing to be ashamed of if you like it, I'd just rather pour petrol down my ears and set 'em alight. I bet you think Jungle is just noise dont you? I bet you think Liquid drum and bass is queer music? Its the Same difference man. Take a chill pill buddy.

Easy Frank, you dont get too many 'F' names for fellas, kudos.

Laterz blamo...

[Static Split Screen]

We're going to Wales tomorrow. Last trip probably before I go home. :cry:

[Herr Lipp]

that will be a fucking mission from scotland.

I wouldn;t mind seeing Cardiff, but I would never go to anywhere in Wales that wasn't a city again....

[Static Split Screen]

Yeah, we're taking the Megabus...pity us :cry:

[Herr Lipp]

at least you have each other....

can you say anything scottish yet?

what about "Get tae fook wit yeh?"

if craig doesnt know that, it must just be an ayrshire phrase. not to worry!

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
I DO think it's student rock though...and it is! Thats nothing to be ashamed of if you like it, I'd just rather pour petrol down my ears and set 'em alight. I bet you think Jungle is just noise dont you? I bet you think Liquid drum and bass is queer music? Its the Same difference man. Take a chill pill buddy.

Easy Frank, you dont get too many 'F' names for fellas, kudos.

Laterz blamo...
No, its not student rock, youre wrong again. And dont compare it to shit dance "music", its like comparing gold to shit. But then you have already shown you know nothing.

[sleepy sinner]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
Oh Fuck Off Mary Alice you twat, I'll generalise all I want. WHo are you to say anything to me, when you get your kicks from American Football cheerleader songs featuring calculus. You fucking mug. You can have a go at me when you get a life you loser :lol:

Your own President didnt even know about Wales! So I'd say my generalisation is fairly fucking grounded. You're retarded beyond belief to think that everything I put is deadly serious. Then again, you are fucking american. No concept of humour unless it features shouting or swear words. Prick!

The Manic Street Preachers, like the majority of Welsh people are fucking sheep-shagging, wax-coat wearing, sisters-fanny-rubbing, stupid-sounding, moaning, wannabee-english bellends. ( :lol: ) Thank fuck I have no welsh relatives, I'd probably end it. They're fucking up there with french people for fucking wiping out completely in my book. And arabs. no particular arabs, all of them would do. :-p

sieg fucking heil.

Some ignorant, totally uninformed, drugged out, arrogant little prick like you thinking you're oh so funny in saying something like that to Mary Alice is really quite sad. Mary Alice is one of the nicest and most intelligent people around blamo. If you're threatened by that, just shut up and go cower privately in a corner and retain some semblance of dignity instead of trying desperately and pathetically to prove something (that you don't have and can't prove anyway) by throwing disgusting vitriol at her.

You're acting far more in accordance with the stereotype of 'hick' than anyone on this board from America is.

If you have ANY integrity, you'll apologise to Mary Alice or at least the rest of us for having to read that shit.
I'm not hopeful though.

[sleepy sinner]

Oh and sorry to interrupt the Scotland worshipping again. Myself, I too enjoyed the land of Scotland :)

Is it too TERRIBLY juvenile to have harboured a secret hope that I'd discover/spot Nessie? And become world famous in tabloid format?

[Herr Lipp]

Originally posted by sleepy sinner
If you have ANY integrity, you'll apologise to Mary Alice or at least the rest of us for having to read that shit.
I'm not hopeful though.

hippy.

[Mary Alice]

thanks Lexy. Beofore I responded the first time, he never said anything just at me, I just thought I should point out that in this forum made of people from all over the world maybe those weren't the best things to say. I never expected any apology, I just felt I needed to say what I said.

After that I didn't take anything to seriously, he was just having fun being vitriolic I guess. I really don't need an apology after that either.

Still I appreciate you, and Danny, being supportive. And now we return this thread to it's regularly scheduled programming of Lochs, cliffs, and castles. To Robin (that's Molly's real name, right?) having a wonderful vacation. Not to mention the happy reunions of Laura and Craig and Kendra and Will and the historic Blamo meetup of the the two couples. 5-4-3-2-1

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally posted by Mary Alice
To Robin (that's Molly's real name, right?) having a wonderful vacation. It's Robyn, I believe.

[Mary Alice]

well if she doesn't mind I'll just call her Molly :) I like that name a lot.

[Molly]

Originally posted by Mary Alice
well if she doesn't mind I'll just call her Molly :) I like that name a lot. i dont mind at all. i do too.

[sleepy sinner]

Originally posted by Mary Alice
Not to mention the happy reunions of Laura and Craig and Kendra and Will and the historic Blamo meetup of the the two couples. 5-4-3-2-1

I'm so jealous I hate hate hate them all, the good looking shmucks!

(Legend: In that sentence 'hate' = '<3 upon every other occasion apart from a blamo meetup I can't attend')

Also, yeah, I know you don't need to be 'defended' or anything like that. I just had to say something cos you're Mary and you're gorgeous and AINT NO ONE GONNA SAY THINGS LIKE THAT TO MAH MARY!

:)

[Barbarian Love Elephant]

Originally posted by Static Split Screen
Yeah, we're taking the Megabus...pity us :cry:

megabus <3 such good value

fraser manics >> you and your music

[savagepum]

Originally posted by Molly
yes, darling, im back. got home yesterday.
it was fantastic. there are no words to describe how good it was. i have to go back asap. ive never had so much fun in my life. and it just felt..right. like i belonged there.

Shut up Molly.
Maybe you should go back there then.
Shut UP!

[Noshus Klam]

Originally posted by savagepum
Shut up Molly.
Maybe you should go back there then.
Shut UP!

Why do you hate Molly so much?

[Daysleeper]

Originally posted by savagepum
Shut up Molly.
Maybe you should go back there then.
Shut UP!

That's a little harsh, don't ya think?!

[Narcissistic Nihilist]

Originally posted by sleepy sinner
You're acting far more in accordance with the stereotype of 'hick' than anyone on this board from America is.

[Static Split Screen]

Originally posted by sleepy sinner
Oh and sorry to interrupt the Scotland worshipping again. Myself, I too enjoyed the land of Scotland :)

Is it too TERRIBLY juvenile to have harboured a secret hope that I'd discover/spot Nessie? And become world famous in tabloid format?

Look, it's Nessie!

[Static Split Screen]

Originally posted by Walter Sopchak
at least you have each other....

can you say anything scottish yet?

what about "Get tae fook wit yeh?"

if craig doesnt know that, it must just be an ayrshire phrase. not to worry!

Aye, ken min, like, ye wee cheeky bam.

[Kahlo]

"Get tae fook wit yeh?"
Im from ayrshire... and that sounds liek ur trying to be an irish p leprechaun.

if you where truly from ayrshire ud say:

"get tae fuck ya cunt"

[Static Split Screen]

I'm home now :(:cry:

[Daysleeper]

Originally posted by Static Split Screen
I'm home now :(:cry:

It's always depressing when you get back home when you've been away...I also feel down after a night of drinking...!!!

[Static Split Screen]

I wouldn't mind a drink or something at the moment.

[Barbarian Love Elephant]

Originally posted by Niall
Yeah well I always liked it now more so than ever. Last few weeks I've been listening to it a lot. The actual music which people don't really go on about is really good. I can't say anything about the lyrics, they're obviously crap compared to razorlight's etc.

good boy <3

[Noshus Klam]

My copy of Machina has an email address on it. What does this mean?

[Daysleeper]

Originally posted by Static Split Screen
I wouldn't mind a drink or something at the moment.

go get pissed with friends...that's always good...and you can tell them of your adventures!

[Static Split Screen]

Originally posted by Daysleeper
go get pissed with friends...that's always good...and you can tell them of your adventures!

I just realized it'd be so much fun to get pissed with *****. *****! One day, uh, when we can get alcohol that isn't that absolutely foul cinnamon crap you guys had at new years. ew.