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Nick K
07-28-2005, 03:24 PM
i can't decide between Casablanca and The Third Man. what do you think?
Reginald I. Perrin
07-28-2005, 07:30 PM
Hmm...leaning towards 12 Angry Men. Or The Caine Mutiny.
Nick K
07-28-2005, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Reginald I. Perrin
Or The Caine Mutiny.

interesting choice. i'll put it in my Q.
Kinbote
07-29-2005, 12:25 AM
Casablanca, definitely.

Incidentally, Nick, if I may go for a moment into my pedantic mode, in your thread title it ought to be a comma, not a slash. The slash indicates that you mean non-auteur AND non-studio, or that "auteur" and "studio system" are different terms for the same thing. A comma, on the other hand...! Well! Don't be mad at me, Nick, I criticize only because I care!
Nick K
07-29-2005, 01:29 PM
darling Ted, would you consider On the Waterfront a non-auteur, studio system film?
Kinbote
07-29-2005, 06:21 PM
Believe it or not, Nick, I've never seen it and know next to nothing about it. I realize it's supposed to be quite good, but I dislike it when people keep telling me something's sooo great, and also I don't like Marlon Brando all that much: bit of a ham.
Nick K
07-29-2005, 09:26 PM
i'd love for you to see it and then read your reaction.
Drunkenmaster
07-30-2005, 11:03 PM
CKY - volumes 1-3

(I don't even know what that means):(
revgoozen
08-03-2005, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Nick K
darling Ted, would you consider On the Waterfront a non-auteur, studio system film?

i'd consider it an auteur film. Elia Kazan is probably an auteur by most people's standards.
Mr. Felix
08-03-2005, 08:23 PM
Casablanca.
Eye
08-05-2005, 04:49 PM
I couldn't get into The Third Man, so I would have to say Casablanca. I can't think of other non-auteur films at the moment haha. I like To Have and Have Not better than Casablanca, which is seen as being influenced by Casablanca. But of course, that is both a studio system film, and a film by an auteur, Howard Hawks.
British_Rockstar
08-28-2005, 02:11 AM
The Third Man for sure. They even cast the auteur poster boy in a SUPPORTING role. It's kind of become a joke because now everyone assumes he directed the damn thing when i n reality he was just a part of the crew. He did write his own lines, which is another way of showing how much collaboration went into this film.