Fight Club [Archive]

Nak Nak

06-06-2005, 02:35 AM

Originally posted by christiansuburbanite
opinions? great book, really damn funny. of course, I didn't "get" it per se but whatever. :-D

You didn't "get" it?
What the fuck?

nicolas

06-06-2005, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by UncleLester
The movie was amusing. The book is utter fucking trash.

who wrote it? i really like the movie, but i've heard many bad things about the book. including your comment :D

Ghostdog

06-06-2005, 10:53 AM

I haven't read anything by him so I'm not sure,
but isn't it Palahniuk?

he seems to be really hip to read these days... *cough*

Atomsk Iscariot

06-06-2005, 01:39 PM

It is Palahniuk.

... and I haven't read Fight Club, but I know I enjoyed the shit out of Invisible Monsters... maybe there's just something wrong with me.

Nak Nak

06-06-2005, 02:26 PM

It's a fun read. Never be ashamed of something you like.

Kinbote

06-06-2005, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by Nak Nak
Never be ashamed of something you like.

...but just make sure you don't call it literary, when it patently is not. That's my great fucking bugaboo. Especially in the case of Palahniuk, whose command of language is almost impressively lacking. God - it's SO FUCKING AGGRAVATING that he's taken seriously.

Nak Nak

06-06-2005, 03:20 PM

Feeling Brackish

06-06-2005, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by UncleLester
...but just make sure you don't call it literary, when it patently is not. That's my great fucking bugaboo. Especially in the case of Palahniuk, whose command of language is almost impressively lacking. God - it's SO FUCKING AGGRAVATING that he's taken seriously.

You're quite the pretentious asshole aren't you, Ted?

And for the record, I've never read anything by Palahniuk, just so you know my outburst wasn't caused by anger at your insulting of him, just of your general hatred of any literary work that isn't considered "intellectual." I think you are afraid of being seen as dumb, and therefor feel the need to compensate by constantly trying to sound smart. Good luck with that, by the way.

Kinbote

06-07-2005, 02:17 AM

Originally posted by Brackish Boy
You're quite the pretentious asshole aren't you, Ted?

And for the record, I've never read anything by Palahniuk, just so you know my outburst wasn't caused by anger at your insulting of him, just of your general hatred of any literary work that isn't considered "intellectual." I think you are afraid of being seen as dumb, and therefor feel the need to compensate by constantly trying to sound smart. Good luck with that, by the way.

I think you should know what you're talking about before you start spouting off. I have no use for "intellectual" fiction - all I ask for is originality and style. When you open up a book and its first sentence can't be parsed, there's a problem - as was my experience with Palahniuk. Anyway, go fuck yourself and stuff.

L'egoMan

06-07-2005, 06:27 AM

the movie was very stupid amercanish with a "surprise" ending from hell.

Static Split Screen

06-07-2005, 10:59 AM

Liked the movie; haven't read the book.

Feeling Brackish

06-07-2005, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by UncleLester
I think you should know what you're talking about before you start spouting off . . . fuck yourself and stuff.

Aye aye, Captain! As I said, I've never read anything by the guy, so I do know nothing about that, but it just seems as if you're always criticizing in order to sound more intellectual. But then again, what the fuck do I know? I also fall into the category of people who constantly fear that others will find them to sound stupid. So maybe I was compensating by being critical of you.
Um, the point of this is, I felt the need to spout off for once, and I'll go fuck my self sweetly now. :-p

Kinbote

06-07-2005, 03:03 PM

Well, I just dislike being insulted. Anyway, I tend to get more agitated over things I don't like than things I do. I'll let you slide just this once.

Kraus McDuff

06-17-2005, 02:33 AM

Kraus McDuff

06-17-2005, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by Legogirl
the movie was very stupid amercanish with a "surprise" ending from hell.

shut the fuck up

Peter

06-17-2005, 03:23 AM

I thoroughly enjoy Palahniuk books. I've read Invisible Monster, Survivor, Fight Club, Lullaby, Stranger Than Fiction and some other one whose title i can't remember. Literary or not, I still enjoy his books :)

Static Split Screen

06-17-2005, 09:10 AM

Yeah, I don't only read literal masterworks of art. I like fun books every now and then.

SardonicTexan

06-22-2005, 03:34 PM

Lullaby is by far my favorite, But choke is also on of the funniest disgusting books I have ever read. Oh yeah and whats up with being pretentious about book selection. Fiction is just that Fiction. What does it matter that its intellectual or not. Shit you people cant just enjoy a book. Hell you are the people that didnt like The DaVinci code because it isnt historically accurate. Go Fuck off its only a book

dufer

06-24-2005, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by SardonicTexan
Lullaby is by far my favorite, But choke is also on of the funniest disgusting books I have ever read. Oh yeah and whats up with being pretentious about book selection. Fiction is just that Fiction. What does it matter that its intellectual or not. Shit you people cant just enjoy a book. Hell you are the people that didnt like The DaVinci code because it isnt historically accurate. Go Fuck off its only a book

Are you talking to people here? Nobody said it matters if it's intellectual or not.

Kinbote

06-25-2005, 12:04 AM

Have we sunk so low that grammatical fiction is now considered "intellectual"?

Peter

06-25-2005, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by UncleLester
Have we sunk so low that grammatical fiction is now considered "intellectual"?

Shut up, Ted :D

SardonicTexan

06-27-2005, 09:49 AM

oh thank you so much for ridiculing my gramatical mistakes I hope you feel like the man you are I do hope you will... gfy I hope you know your arguing with a pothead its like flipping a monkey out a window

Trickster

06-27-2005, 11:04 AM

Fight Club is the only film I can think of which adds to and outdoes the book. That's not to say I don't enjoy Palahniuk's writing though, cos I do. I don't think FC is his best book however, it seems a little underdeveloped. I agree that he is pretty much a one-trick pony with his stories and writing style all coming off very similar, but he has some really great and original ideas for stories that can be especially powerful. I think his disjointed "non-literary" style of writing only helps to evoke the modern, "non-literary" characters he is representing. He always writes in first-person after all doesn't he?

Kinbote

06-27-2005, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by SardonicTexan
oh thank you so much for ridiculing my gramatical mistakes I hope you feel like the man you are I do hope you will... gfy I hope you know your arguing with a pothead its like flipping a monkey out a window

The ridicule was for Chuck Palahniuk's grammatical ineptitude, pal.

SardonicTexan

06-28-2005, 03:19 PM

I stand corrected and informed. thanks:-D

Trickster

07-06-2005, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by UncleLester
The ridicule was for Chuck Palahniuk's grammatical ineptitude, pal.

But is it not just a style he uses to evoke the characters more accurately? I would argue that Tyler Durden wouldn't talk or think like Heathcliff, so why should the writing be in a more accepted or classical style?

Kinbote

07-07-2005, 01:00 AM

If you can't parse the sentence, it's bad writing.

Sandinista

07-07-2005, 01:51 AM

Anyone care for Studs Terkel?

Kinbote

07-07-2005, 01:57 AM

I have a copy of The Good War that I've never read.

Sandinista

07-07-2005, 02:01 AM

I need to get that. Currently working on Division Street, which is not unlike Working. I'm just fascinated with the way people have struggled, lived and worked in years past.

Kinbote

07-07-2005, 02:07 AM

I like his name - Studs Terkel. It rolls nicely off the tongue: "Studs Terkel." It's especially fine if said in a dramatic voice. "Studs Terkel."

Trickster

07-07-2005, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by UncleLester
If you can't parse the sentence, it's bad writing.

I don't mean to sound naive, but by parse you mean if it has all the correct combination of verbs, nouns, and conjuctives?

angel in the snow

07-07-2005, 01:09 PM

Fight Club kicks Donnie Darko's strange, pathetic ass any day of the week!!!!

edit: i'm talking movies...

SardonicTexan

07-07-2005, 05:13 PM

yeah but it doesnt have time travel.... Or Maggie

angel in the snow

08-05-2005, 03:21 AM

Originally posted by SardonicTexan
yeah but it doesnt have time travel.... Or Maggie

it has a strange man with boobs
that creepy chick, and the funny nightjobs

Narcissistic Nihilist

08-05-2005, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by Legogirl
a "surprise" ending from hell.
I cant be arsed with the book, but the film showed some nice ideas but piss poor execution. Mainly because the ending was fucking awful.

SardonicTexan

08-05-2005, 11:47 PM

If your gonna stalk me just marry me

Originally posted by angel in the snow
it has a strange man with boobs
that creepy chick, and the funny nightjobs

sleepy sinner

08-07-2005, 08:41 AM

My gripe with the movie was I found the dangerous interplay between two characters far more interesting than having it resolve ONCE AGAIN into fucking multiple personality disorder!

Fuck that, it's the most lame plot device ever.

angel in the snow

08-07-2005, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by SardonicTexan
If your gonna stalk me just marry me

might as well
but it's illegal
although there's nothing like living outside the law :rockon:

Chopstick

08-07-2005, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by UncleLester
If you can't parse the sentence, it's bad writing.
If you had been alive at the time, would you have called Monet inept because he couldn't color within the lines?

In all fairness, I haven't finished Survivor yet, and I haven't read any other books by the author, but I do really enjoy the detail in the writing. Hell, I learned how to eat lobster and clean bloodstains the last time I picked up the book.

Also, Bob Dylan can't sing that well.

Trickster

08-07-2005, 11:20 PM

I love the stuff like that in Palahniuk's writing, you get the feeling he does some good research into some really random things to flesh out his characters and their occupations.

Kinbote

08-08-2005, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by Chopstick
If you had been alive at the time, would you have called Monet inept because he couldn't color within the lines?

In all fairness, I haven't finished Survivor yet, and I haven't read any other books by the author, but I do really enjoy the detail in the writing. Hell, I learned how to eat lobster and clean bloodstains the last time I picked up the book.

Also, Bob Dylan can't sing that well.

Palooanuknuk's lack of ability is more akin to Monet being incapable of unfurling a canvas without tearing it, or of dipping a brush in paint without it snapping in his hands. Also, Monet would have to be making paintings for magazine covers and aftershave billboards.

It's a specious comparison, anyway.

robomarie

08-14-2005, 07:50 PM

Every book that guy writes seems like the literary counterpart to a painting of two blue dots called "Two Blue Dots". And then you say, "My little brother could write that, if only he knew how to swear" and somebody gets angry at you for not being progressive enough.