2005 - An obsessive listmaker's paradise.

[Reginald I. Perrin]

This'll just be updated throughout the year. All of the movies I see through the year will just be magically stuck in here. And then, we'll have the best one! I don't know how long it'll last, but at least it'll always be on the first page.

So. Plus, for no reason at all, I changed my rating scale.

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A Very Long Engagement (100)
Shock Corridor (98)
The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly (97)
The Birds (96)
The Assassination of Richard Nixon (96)
Floating Weeds (95)
Vera Drake (94)
Scum (93)
Fallen Angels (93)
The Maltese Falcon (93)
Zulu (92)
Ray (91)
Wuthering Heights (91)
The Aviator (90)
In Cold Blood (90)
Cobra Verde (90)
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover (89)
Vanishing Point (89)
Killer of Sheep (88)
Venus Beauty Institute (87)
Shaun of the Dead (87)
Man Bites Dog (86)
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (84)
Million Dollar Baby (84)
The Ox (84)
Aileen: The Life and Death of a Serial Killer (83)
Ocean's Eleven (81)
Waxworks (79)
The Man In The White Suit (76)
Thomas Edison's Frankenstein (74)
Weapons of Mass Distraction (73)
Fahrenheit 9/11 (69)
Shinjuku Triad Society (69)
Closer (41)
Rocky II (28)
Under Siege 2: Dark Territory (24)
Rocky IV (03)
The Football Factory (03)

[Nick K]

what kind of scoring system are you using?

[XenonDreams]

gawd i haven't seen a new movie the whole of 2005! sucks living in suburbia without a car and no public transport running on the weekend.

[sleepy sinner]

Hmmm (/10)

Garden State 8
A Very Long Engagement 7.5
Delicatessen 6
Secretary 5
Hidalgo 5
Finding Neverland 4

I don't think I've seen more than that...

[Reginald I. Perrin]

Originally posted by Nick K
what kind of scoring system are you using?

Out of 100...pretty much the same as i've always used, only having it out of 100 at least stops the ratings from getting too similar. All depends on just how fine the film is, I guess.

Well...i'm sad, so i'll just throw this out.

(yellow)

A+ - (95-100)
A - (90-94)
A- - (85-89)

(grey)

B+ - (80-84)
B - (75-79)
B- (70-74)
C+ - (65-69)
C - (60-64)

(red)

C- (55-59)
D+ - (50-54)
D - (40-49)
D- (35-39)
E+ - (30-34)
E - (20-29)
E- (10-19)
F - (0-9)

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[Nick K]

how can you give a movie an exact percentage though? do you add up and divide between different categories like performances, dialogue, direction, etc.?

[Reginald I. Perrin]

I don't. It's mostly an estimate, based on what you said, but hardly exact.

Depressed amateur critic whines a lot, says "I just make this shit up"

[Reginald I. Perrin]

*bumped*

Added:

In Cold Blood
The Maltese Falcon
The Man In The White Suit
Rocky IV
Vanishing Point
Vera Drake


Assorted upcomers:

Hotel Rwanda
Shinjuku Triad Society
Shogun Assassin
Sideways

[i]

y'know if this was made sticky and everyone had a post that they edited to update it would be pretty cool

so here's mine. I'm not sure I watched all these this calendar year and I'm pretty sure I've watched some I've forgotten to list. I'll use an asterix to denote films I see for the first time. Unless otherwise specified, all have been watched on DVD.

As

*Apocalypse Now [Redux] - A+
The Godfather Part II - A+

*Don Juan de Marco - A
Fight Club - A
Lost in Translation - A
*Mystic River - A
Seven Samurai - A

*City of God - A-
*Eyes Wide Shut - A-
*Fargo - A-
*One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - A-

Bs

*American Beauty - B+
*Being John Malkovich - B+
*Kill Bill Vol. 2 - B+
The Last of the Mohicans - B+
The Life of Brian - B+
*Master and Commander - B+
*Rushmore - B+
*Shaun of the Dead - B+
*Sideways (inflight) - B+
*Three Kings - B+
Total Recall (TV) - B+
*War of the Worlds (cinema) - B+

*Bend It Like Beckham - B
*Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (cinema) - B
*Collateral - B
*The Deer Hunter - B
*Forever Young (VHS) B
*Garden State - B
*Himalaya - B
*Kill Bill Vol. 1 - B
Meet the Parents - B
*Network - B
*Once Upon a Time in Mexico - B
*Royal Tenenbaums (TV) - B
Secret Window - B
*Wallace & Gromit - Curse of the Wererabbit (inflight) - B
*Wimbledon - B

*The 40-Year-Old Virgin (inflight) - B-
*Batman Begins (inflight) - B-
*Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (cinema) - B-
*The Italian Job [modern remake] (inflight) - B-
Napoleon Dynamite - B-
*Ocean's Eleven (TV) - B-
*Wedding Crashers (inflight) - B-

Cs

*Clueless - C+
*Goal! (inflight) - C+
*The Incredibles - C+
*King Arthur - C+
*Once Upon a Time in the West - C+
Police Academy (TV) - C+
*Revenge of the Sith (cinema) - C+

*The Bourne Identity - C
*Coach Carter (inflight) - C
*Freaky Friday - C
*The Island (inflight) - C
*Kingdom of Heaven (inflight) - C
*Meet the Fockers (inflight) - C
*The Ring 2 - C
*White Noise (cinema) - C

*Bewitched [remake] (inflight) C-
*I-Robot (inflight) C-

some of the ratings differ slightly from those in the "last movie you saw" thread, cos when i look at all the movies together i decide i've over/underrated some.

[Reginald I. Perrin]

Smashing idea, Will!

I'm not sure it's such a smashing idea to give Network a meagre B though!

Oh yes, and all the movies I see will be first-viewings only (Make it fairer, anyway, seeing as Network and the Conversation both got perfect scores)

[i]

Originally posted by Reginald I. Perrin
I'm not sure it's such a smashing idea to give Network a meagre B though!

haha, well i'm more into "movies" than "film" i suppose. i could see its merits but ultimately some of the themes (or actually perhaps more their presentation/exposition) seemed a little dated. i had a similar feeling when i first watched citizen kane. it depends tho - for example, i liked "the conversation" a lot and i never get bored of watching westerns.

[Kinbote]

I wanna play too! Though I'm not sure I can remember all that well everything I've seen. Some of these might be from the tail end of last year. Whatever!

Constantine - D- (saved from an F only by the ever-delectable Rachel Weisz; this is why it's not such a good idea to go wandering past a theater while intoxicated)
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou - A
Million Dollar Baby - B+

Belle de jour - A-
Bitter Moon - C+
Celine and Julie Go Boating - A-
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie - B+
Genealogies of a Crime - A-
La Guerre Est Finie - A
Hiroshima Mon Amour - B+
The Last Wave - B
Picnic at Hanging Rock - B-
A Zed and Two Noughts - A

There's more, but that's all I can recollect at present.

[motorcyclemptiness]

Originally posted by UncleLester

The Last Wave - B
Picnic at Hanging Rock - B-

You really liked The Last Wave more than Picnic at Hanging Rock? I thought The Last Wave was pretty bad. Hanging Rock isn't great or anything, but artistically it's a much superior film!

[Kinbote]

I wasn't too pleased with either - I'd been led by a friend to expect great things - but I found The Last Wave somewhat less limp a film.

[motorcyclemptiness]

No matter how cliche it is now, I like the impressionistic style of Picnic at Hanging Rock. Despite the fucking rock is meant to be a phallic symbol, and all that obvious imagery.

I had to study Peter Weir films for a class. My professor considered him an auteur, which in some senses he is, like he employs similar themes and artistic elements, but that's about it.

In retrospect, we studied Kieslowski right after Weir, and unfairly, it made Weir look mediocre at best.

[Kinbote]

Green Card is a really admirable piece of film-making.

[motorcyclemptiness]

Heh.

[motorcyclemptiness]

But seriously, "The Mosquito Coast" might possibly be worse.

[Atomsk Iscariot]

Originally posted by rainofthehours
I'm going to use your rating scale As am I:

Before Sunrise / Before Sunset (100/100)
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou (100)
Solaris (99)
In the Heat of the Night (98)
Amelie (97)
The Seventh Seal (95)
12 Monkeys (93)
The Rules of the Game (92)
Sideways (92)
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (91)
Mullholland Drive (91)
In America (90)
Elephant (90)
Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade (90)
Quills (89)
Batman Begins (89)
Noi (87)
October Sky (85)
Star Wars: Episode III (85)
Courage Under Fire (82)
Saved! (81)
Garden State (80)
The Cat Returns (80)
House of Flying Daggers (75)
Napoleon Dynamite (75)
Boondock Saints (67)
Cruel Intentions (56)
Star Wars: Episode II (50)
Poolhall Junkies (47)
The Notebook (20)
Meet the Fockers (2)
Meet the Parents (0)
Happiness (No rating)

[Kinbote]

Originally posted by motorcyclemptiness
But seriously, "The Mosquito Coast" might possibly be worse.

I was only twelve or so when I saw it, so perhaps the tropical setting, Harrison Ford, and something being constructed were enough for me, but I thought it was okay.

[Shabba D]

some of my ratings may be more generous than others, but thats only because I try to watch every film i see at teh cinema mashed. this is all i can remember that ive seen recently at the cinema:

Bullet Boy (75)
Birth (66)
Spongebob Squarepants (82)
Saw (65)
Boogeyman (15)
Ring 2 (10 - I walked out of this film)
Harold & Kumar (54)
Steve Zissou... (94) fuckin A.
House of Flying Daggers (45) disappointing
Hero (67) a little better than above
Hostage (58)
Constantine (70) bit of a disappointment
Creep (91) see this film!
Meet The Fockers (25)

meh and there were loads more aswell afraid i cant remember them.

[circa1762]

Saw - A-
The Day After Tomorrow - C-
Dawn of the Dead - C-
Meet The Fockers - D
The Village - B+

[revgoozen]

here's a preliminary list of things i've seen this year.

a very long engagement a
shine (i just rewatched this) a
riding giants a
i'm not scared a
motorcycle diaries a
empire falls a

kung fu hustle b+
ray b+
the life aquatic b+
sean of the dead b
undertow b
garden state b
i heart huckabees b
finding neverland b
elf b
manchurian candidate (remake) b
friday night lights b
northfork b-
luther b-

oceans 12 c
vanity fair c
wimbeldon c
ladder 49 c
the notebook c
white noise c -
exorcist the begining c-
kingdom of heaven c-

saw f
envy f
meet the fockers f
i'll sleep when i'm dead f-

[i]

I think I'm the only person who's actually updated their list regularly. :oh:

[Atomsk Iscariot]

Originally posted by i
I think I'm the only person who's actually updated their list regularly. :oh: + me.

[Reginald I. Perrin]

And me. Updated today with Zulu and Man Bites Dog.

Will...will...will.

"*Once Upon a Time in the West - C+"

Now, surely this was a mistake. I mean, it obviously was - a slight typo - after all, A and C are pretty close on the keyboard. Just edit it to "A+" and we'll say no more!

[revgoozen]

i've been updating my list each week as well.

[i]

Originally posted by Reginald I. Perrin
And me. Updated today with Zulu and Man Bites Dog.

Will...will...will.

"*Once Upon a Time in the West - C+"

Now, surely this was a mistake. I mean, it obviously was - a slight typo - after all, A and C are pretty close on the keyboard. Just edit it to "A+" and we'll say no more!

I really love The Good The Bad and the Ugly and the Clint ones, I just couldn't get into this one. It was too slow. It probably didn't help that I was watching it relaxed on a dining room chair with headphones on my laptop cos my flatmate is gross.

[Reginald I. Perrin]

You watch again!

Updated with: Floating Weeds, Aileen: Life and Death of a Serial Killer, Fahrenheit 9/11 and Rocky II.

[i]

It was just slow and so so western. Ok, that sounds stupid but it was too over the top even for my expectations. Even just the very last scene where it peels off and everyone is busy building the railroad town. I much prefer the variety and full on gunslinging of The Good the Bad and the Ugly.

Updated with a couple films as well.

[Reginald I. Perrin]

Indeed, it is so very western. The film is pretty much a homage/coda to the western films that Leone loves - there's plenty of small homages to Western films, some that can be caught up on (The scene with Jill riding to her hometown was shot in Monument Valley - used so famously in John Ford films), others that you wouldn't even know unless you listened to the commentary (Christopher Frayling remarks that the scene with the father and son shooting birds is reminiscent of Shane, for instance, and equates Harmonica's Harmonica to Johnny's Guitar). I can see why it wouldn't be liked due to it being so Western, although I personally love it. I didn't like it on first viewing either, though.

List updated with the worst film I've seen this year, the Football Factory.

[i]

Yeah, I listened to some of the commentary to try to get a better appreciation for why it was so well regarded. It made sense, but it just didn't appeal to me on first viewing. Maybe a second one would help but I already returned it in the mail.

[Mr. Felix]

is it too late to add mine?! I hope not, coz I'm adding it....

Harold and Maude (100)
Natural Born Killers (100)
American Beauty (100)
The Fabulous Destiny of Amélie Poulain (100)
Sling Blade (100)
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (100)
Driving Miss Daisy (100)
Annie Hall (100)
Slacker (100)
Downfall: The Fall of Hitler and the End of the Third Reich (100)
Sin City (100)
The Passion of Joan of Arc (100)
The Silence of the Lambs (100)
Angela (100)
Voyage to the Moon (100)
Fargo (100)
Big Fish (100)
Ghost World (100)
Vieuphoria (100)
Pulp Fiction (100)
Spirited Away (100)
Bowling for Columbine (99)
Lost Highway (98)
Mulholland Drive (98)
Clerks (98)
Requiem for a Dream (97)
Eraserhead (97)
Hedwig and the Angry Inch (97)
Brazil (97)
The Godfather (97)
Singin' in the Rain (97)
Manhattan (96)
Easy Rider (96)
The Shawshank Redemption (96)
Do the Right Thing (96)
Blue Velvet (96)
Donnie Darko (96)
JFK (96)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (96)
Lost in Translation (96)
Full Metal Jacket (96)
Forrest Gump (95)
Pi (95)
Love and Death (95)
This Is Spinal Tap (95)
Gerry (94)
Amadeus (94)
Man on the Moon (94)
Whale Rider (94)
Mississippi Burning (94)
Kill Bill (94)
Monster (94)
O Brother, Where Art Thou? (94)
Being John Malkovich (94)
The Big Lebowski (94)
American Splendor (93)
A Streetcar Named Desire (93)
Hotel Rwanda (93)
21 Grams (93)
Traffic (92)
Platoon (92)
Trainspotting (92)
Edward Scissorhands (92)
I Heart Huckabees (92)
A Beautiful Mind (92)
Dogma (92)
Twelve Monkeys (92)
Mayor of the Sunset Strip (91)
Elephant (91)
The Safety of Objects (91)
Ferris Bueller's Day Off (90)
The Pianist (90)
28 Days Later (90)
Superstar: The Life and Times of Andy Warhol (90)
Kids (90)
Mystic River (90)
Time Bandits (90)
The Hours (89)
Basquiat (89)
Reservoir Dogs (89)
Steal This Movie (88)
Party Monster (88)
Another Day in Paradise (87)
Saved! (87)
Girl, Interrupted (86)
The War (86)
Boys Don't Cry (86)
Zelig (86)
Mean Girls (86)
Thirteen (85)
The Bad News Bears (85)
The Aviator (85)
Ray (85)
Jackie Brown (85)
Out of the Blue (85)
A Clockwork Orange (84)
Even Cowgirls get the Blues (84)
What's Eating Gilbert Grape (84)
Igby Goes Down (84)
Serial Mom (84)
The King of Comedy (83)
I Shot Andy Warhol (83)
Napolean Dynamite (83)
The Naked Gun (83)
In America (82)
The Birdcage (81)
Fahrenheit 9/11 (80)
True Romance (79)
The Majestic (79)
Love and a .45 (75)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (70)
Finding Neverland (68)
Mallrats (60)
Rumble Fish (35)
The Hotel New Hampshire (24)
Hide and Seek (20)
Velvet Goldmine (15)
Reefer Madness (0)

[Telegram Sam]

ridiculous!

[Telegram Sam]

Originally posted by Atomsk Iscariot
Elephant (90)
Happiness (No rating)

[Mr. Felix]

so, natty barley, what is your major huge problem with me anyway? i just don't get it. i really don't.

[Telegram Sam]

there are so many things in life that evade our understanding. I can't even begin to explain...

[Mr. Felix]

Originally posted by Nathan Barley
there are so many things in life that evade our understanding. I can't even begin to explain...

i do agree with you about eraserhead, though.

[Atomsk Iscariot]

Originally posted by Nathan Barley
Sorry God. :cry:

[Atomsk Iscariot]

Originally posted by Nathan Barley
By the way, I gave Happiness no rating because I found it too fucking awful for a rating of any kind.

Or, at least, that's how I've come to see it on retrospect. I was kind of overwhelmed by it on first viewing.

[Mr. Felix]

put your pants back on, i updated it.

[Mr. Felix]

it was fargo! and im gonna change my rating scale....... there are far too many 100's. it just doesn't look right...

[Silence]

is this thread for films you want to see/buy? if it is....

Lady in White
Gummo
Clockwork Orange
Fight Club
The Cure
American Perfekt
Erazerhead
Drop Dead Fred
Team America
Jaw Breaker
To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar
One Perfect Day
Strange Days
Pretty in Pink
Crumb
May
Beetlejuice (need it on dvd not video)
Night of The Living Dead (both versions)
The Designated Mourner
Charlie Chaplin
Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Shaun of the Dead
The Breakfast Club
Psycho (box set)
Death Becomes Her
Die Hard (box set)
True Romance
The Exorcist
Dead Babies
Oldboy
Fear & Loathing in L.A.
Lost in Translation
Ghost in the Shell
Million Dollar Baby
12 Monkeys
Elephant
Creep
Lost Highway
Waterboy
Singles
Requiem for a Dream
House of Wax
Sin City
Phantasm (I, II, III)
Big Daddy
Addams Family Values
Never Ending Story

[Mr. Felix]

Originally posted by Silence
is this thread for films you want to see/buy? if it is....

Lady in White
Gummo
Clockwork Orange
Fight Club
The Cure
American Perfekt
Erazerhead
Drop Dead Fred
Team America
Jaw Breaker
To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar
One Perfect Day
Strange Days
Pretty in Pink
Crumb
May
Beetlejuice (need it on dvd not video)
Night of The Living Dead (both versions)
The Designated Mourner
Charlie Chaplin
Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Shaun of the Dead
The Breakfast Club
Psycho (box set)
Death Becomes Her
Die Hard (box set)
True Romance
The Exorcist
Dead Babies
Oldboy
Fear & Loathing in L.A.
Lost in Translation
Ghost in the Shell
Million Dollar Baby
12 Monkeys
Elephant
Creep
Lost Highway
Waterboy
Singles
Requiem for a Dream
House of Wax
Sin City
Phantasm (I, II, III)
Big Daddy
Addams Family Values
Never Ending Story

whoa. um..... this thread for movies you have already seen, and then you post the score. but this thread is pretty much pointless because it is rarely posted in. plus there's another thread exactly like this one except it is always getting posted in. don't se jawbreaker. and it's fear and loathing in las VEGAS, not angeles. and it's eraserhead, not erazerhead. and it's actually just called "chaplin". i am so tired right now...

[motorcyclemptiness]

Originally posted by Brazil
whoa. um..... this thread for movies you have already seen, and then you post the score. but this thread is pretty much pointless because it is rarely posted in. plus there's another thread exactly like this one except it is always getting posted in. don't se jawbreaker. and it's fear and loathing in las VEGAS, not angeles. and it's eraserhead, not erazerhead. and it's actually just called "chaplin". i am so tired right now...

OMG YOU TELL HIM.

[Mr. Felix]

Originally posted by motorcyclemptiness
OMG YOU TELL HIM.

[RoadToJoy]

i am sorrie

[Reginald I. Perrin]

Originally posted by Reginald I. Perrin
This'll just be updated throughout the year. All of the movies I see through the year will just be magically stuck in here. And then, we'll have the best one! I don't know how long it'll last, but at least it'll always be on the first page.

So. Plus, for no reason at all, I changed my rating scale.

----

A Very Long Engagement (100)
Shock Corridor (98)
The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly (97)
The Birds (96)
The Assassination of Richard Nixon (96)
Floating Weeds (95)
Vera Drake (94)
Scum (93)
Fallen Angels (93)
The Maltese Falcon (93)
Zulu (92)
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (92)
Ray (91)
Wuthering Heights (91)
The Aviator (90)
In Cold Blood (90)
Cobra Verde (90)
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover (89)
Vanishing Point (89)
Killer of Sheep (88)
Venus Beauty Institute (87)
Shaun of the Dead (87)
Man Bites Dog (86)
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (84)
Million Dollar Baby (84)
The Ox (84)
Layer Cake (83)
Aileen: The Life and Death of a Serial Killer (83)
Ocean's Eleven (81)
Waxworks (79)
The Man In The White Suit (76)
Thomas Edison's Frankenstein (74)
Weapons of Mass Distraction (73)
Fahrenheit 9/11 (69)
Shinjuku Triad Society (69)
Closer (41)
Rocky II (28)
Under Siege 2: Dark Territory (24)
Rocky IV (03)
The Football Factory (03)

[Mr. Felix]

Fallen Angels

which fallen angels is that? i looked it up and there are quite a few.

[Reginald I. Perrin]

Wong Kar-Wai's Fallen Angels. '95. One beautiful film.

[DrHibbert]

Over the Hedge (94)
An Inconvenient Truth (94)
Capote (92)
The Big Lebowski (86)
The Andromeda Strain (84)
Nacho Libre (83)
The 40-year old virgin (80)
Click (79)
Talladega Nights (78)
Unknown White Male (77)
The Break Up (75)
Goal (73)
Shade (70)
Pirates of the Carribean 2 (69)
The Omen (68)
The Day After Tomorrow (65)
Poseidon (62)
The Ringer (60)
The Hills Have Eyes (58)
Superman (50)
Descent (47)
Clerks 2 (44)
Mindhunters (42)
Empire of the Wolves (31)
Barnyard (30)
Two For the Money (24)
Find Me Guilty (23)
Abandon (22)
Cars (14)

[Mr. Felix]

I think the thread died.

[i]

Well it says "2005"!

[Mr. Felix]

Why is it still sticky?

[DrHibbert]

Just change it to 2006.

[jas1n]

i like Freaky Friday.

[Mr. Felix]

I don't.

[Intern Kate]

Lindsay or Jodi?

[jas1n]

i've always liked the original. but i still think Lindsay is attractive.

[Divine]

.

[Osceana]

Damn, this thread is old as Hell.