i kiss goodbye the howling beast on the borderline that seperated you from me.. [Archive]

Monotype

11-02-2003, 02:56 PM

the blether
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I just want to set the record pretty straight.You can believe this post or not but I speak the truth.
1.Elliott's hand is fine now.I understand your concern but it is okay, no permanent damage thankfully.He was not on anything,he was not fucked up.He slept on his arm for the duration of the flight and lost all feeling.It was totally genuine and terribly upsetting for elliott, I reckon you guys can understand that knowing how important a functioning hand is to a guitar player !!!He didn't want to let anybody down by not playing.In hindsight maybe he should have to stop all the rumours and speculations,however ,there would still be whispers as to why he didn't play.I guess it was a no win situation for him.He had made the trip and had obviously not forseen his limb going numb for several hours, who would have?Instead of speculating about his performance can you perhaps consider how courageous it was of Elliott to go onstage knowing he would have difficulty playing.He is a very honest person, that's why you all care for him so much and he didn't want to let anyone down as you all mean so much to him.I think you should consider what has just been written as it is the truth.

2.Elliott is delighted to have a manager as decent as Scott.Scott is in no way "mis-managing "him.They both have the utmost respect for one another .Scott is a fantastic manager and tremendously well respected within the music industry.He knows how Elliott works and let's him get on with it without interfering.A manger does not have to check in on his artist everyday, that's just bothersome and pointless unless there really is something to talk about that's important.He is available to Elliott 24/7.
2b.As for somebody commenting that Scott wasn't at any of the December shows, why should he have been? When touring an artist will normally have a tour manager, so why should the manager be there ......to waste money?? If Elliott had felt it necessary for Scott to be present then he would have been there, it's that simple !!

3.Elliott is still working on the album, is that not allowed?I do understand that you all want to have a copy and that it has been taking longer than "usual" but please be patient, it is definitely worth the wait.He knows you all want it to have been released 6 months ago but I know you don't want to put him under pressure to release just any old album.....yeah,I know even that may seem great right now but not really,eh?
Thank you all for your support, it really is appreciated.You all seem really nice and I've met a good few thousand of you !! Elliott is really lucky to have people like you to appreciate his music and stand by him(he's worth it).Don't worry, he's in several pairs of loving and capable hands.
Much love to you all

Anjy

11-02-2003, 05:18 PM

Thank you so much for that. Not having been around this discussion bbs at the time it happened, it gives me such a vicarious thrill to see these posts. I thank you more than I could say.

Queensgal

11-02-2003, 07:35 PM

This doesn't give me a "thrill" at all, sorry - it just makes me fucking sad, sad, sad.

I hate this.

sombre winds

11-02-2003, 08:08 PM

From August 2002. Is that right? I have those same posts somewhere. I wish I had the ones from when hhelliott first posted and was so funny and witty. Suggesting books for someone to read on the flight over here from England. That Elliott I would like to remember and those posts are the only time he showed to fans here.

anodyne

11-02-2003, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by saydela
I wish I had the ones from when hhelliott first posted and was so funny and witty. Suggesting books for someone to read on the flight over here from England. That Elliott I would like to remember and those posts are the only time he showed to fans here.

Does anyone have those saved somehow? It would be really nice to read those. I missed 'em and never bothered to look them up, then they were lost. I thought there would eventually be more :(

Monotype

11-02-2003, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by Queensgal
This doesn't give me a "thrill" at all, sorry - it just makes me fucking sad, sad, sad.

I hate this.

hey I realise that. it makes me fucking sad too because the elliott here is a fighter and defensive sure, but with confidence in where he's going and what he's doing, and now they have a different spin on them, but please I don't expect people to get thrills out of them or kicks.....oh contrare...

Monotype

11-02-2003, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by saydela
From August 2002. Is that right? I have those same posts somewhere. I wish I had the ones from when hhelliott first posted and was so funny and witty. Suggesting books for someone to read on the flight over here from England. That Elliott I would like to remember and those posts are the only time he showed to fans here.

well we got to realise that elliott wore boxers and not briefs in those posts, every fans dream....:)

I can remember a lot of what he said but didn't save them, a board crash of sorts meant they are lost...., and that elliott paints a nice image of him, because (and I know I make him sound like a puppy here) he was very playful and kinda having fun with the spirit of things y'know....

hummy

11-02-2003, 09:08 PM

i remember them.

boxers or briefs?

the brew

11-02-2003, 10:47 PM

oh dear.

Anjy

11-02-2003, 11:09 PM

//but please I don't expect people to get thrills out of them or kicks//

I think you guys are taking what I said out of context. I only meant that the fact that he took the time to write to you guys was sweet. I missed it the first time it was posted, so I was greatful to be able to see it.

I never dreamed it was going to be construed that way. I'm sorry, it wasn't meant that way at all.

sombre winds

11-02-2003, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by Monotype
well we got to realise that elliott wore boxers and not briefs in those posts, every fans dream....:)

I can remember a lot of what he said but didn't save them, a board crash of sorts meant they are lost...., and that elliott paints a nice image of him, because (and I know I make him sound like a puppy here) he was very playful and kinda having fun with the spirit of things y'know....

I thought of that as a glimpse into the "real" Elliott. Everyone who knows him personally talks about his incredible sense of humor and playfulness. It was such a different side of him for those of us who saw the public Elliott to experience. I think that's why so many here didn't believe it "sounded like Elliott" and was fake.
I still remember the smiley he used and him saying not to be scared of it

Anjy

11-02-2003, 11:30 PM

You know, I went back and read everything over very carefully...

And I want to say I'm sorry. I think I used a very bad choice of words. It *IS* so very sad at points, but very sweet too. I only meant it in the best way possible. I promise. I love him as much as anyone here. Sorry if I offended anyone. It wasn't meant that way. Only in the best manner possible.

sombre winds

11-02-2003, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by Anjy
You know, I went back and read everything over very carefully...

And I want to say I'm sorry. I think I used a very bad choice of words. It *IS* so very sad at points, but very sweet too. I only meant it in the best way possible. I promise. I love him as much as anyone here. Sorry if I offended anyone. It wasn't meant that way. Only in the best manner possible.

Anjy its ok. I think that many of us understood what you meant. Things are so messed up right now for all of us that some of us (talking about me and I imagine others) feel skinless and raw. It is touching to see this other Elliott and we're lucky that he shared some of that with us.

Queensgal

11-02-2003, 11:58 PM

Sorry Anyj, I didn't mean to imply you were getting kicks out of it, please don't apologise, I know exactly what you're saying, the posts are great to read. Sorry that my post above came out sounding harsh...

When I said they made me sad, it wasn't because of what he had written above - but more for the fact that he'll never write here, or anywhere else for that matter, ever again. That just depresses the fuck out of me. It hit me, reading those... and so I'm sad.

I just wish so much this hadn't happened. But thanks for posting those, 'cause I've never seen them before.

Monotype

11-03-2003, 06:23 AM

it really is depressing Queensgal, it really is tragic, and I don't know how to get my head round this either......reading this only makes things worse I guess......:-(

but yeh Saydela it was a different side to him, and I remember his posts pre a san francisco gig asking us not to be scared of his long hair...., he did well to warn us...!!

sombre winds

11-03-2003, 06:25 AM

Originally posted by Monotype
it really is depressing Queensgal, it really is tragic, and I don't know how to get my head round this either......reading this only makes things worse I guess......:-(

but yeh Saydela it was a different side to him, and I remember his posts pre a san francisco gig asking us not to be scared of his long hair...., he did well to warn us...!!

Those are the posts I wish we could find. He wrote a couple of evenings during his last mini tour when he played in Portland and then Seattle for the last time ever.

shamrox

11-03-2003, 06:40 AM

the weirdest thing is that right after i heard he died, one of the first things that came to mind was how many people on this board were so quick to defend him whenever anyone said the word "addiction." how many newbies were shunned whenever they brought the topic up. i remember someone saying that maybe he's just "different now," like the way brian wilson has become.

i really don't mean that in a negative way towards anyone. it was just what sprang to my mind when he passed.

Anjy

11-03-2003, 07:22 AM

Thank you for understanding guys, I went to bed last night feeling like I'd unintentionally said a shitty thing and hoping that I didn't hurt anyone.

//I just wish so much this hadn't happened.//

I've wished this perhaps a thousand times over these last two weeks. :(

Anjy

11-03-2003, 07:27 AM

//how many people on this board were so quick to defend him whenever anyone said the word "addiction."//

I can totally relate to that though. We, as humans, tend to try and ferociously protect the people we love. That was natural.

I've belonged to a bbs for 5 years now for Mike Doughty (former singer for Soul Coughing, superspecialrock.com) and we did the very same thing when he was going through all of his addiction problems.

amy atomica

11-03-2003, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by saydela
Those are the posts I wish we could find. He wrote a couple of evenings during his last mini tour when he played in Portland and then Seattle for the last time ever.

saydel, they're all in the message board in the sky, what with the great leveller that was the big blamonet server crash may 2002.

the woody

11-03-2003, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by amy atomica
saydel, they're all in the message board in the sky, what with the great leveller that was the big blamonet server crash may 2002.

and that was painful for so many reasons :cry:

amy atomica

11-03-2003, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by woody
and that was painful for so many reasons :cry:

cos if it wasn't for that, you'd have 20000 posts by now:D

Mandrake

11-03-2003, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by amy atomica
cos if it wasn't for that, you'd have 20000 posts by now:D

Amy, I don't want to sound rude or anything - and I certainly don't want anybody to feel offended - but, according to my own calculations, he certainly wouldn't have gone beyond 18500 posts to this day.

I just thought that important issues like this should be addressed scientifically, as it's really no laughing matter.
:-p

sidenone

11-06-2003, 09:22 AM

i don't know how i overlooked this thread when it first got posted :O

anyways, thanks for posting this!! :)

so, the original threads are gone?

licksy

11-07-2003, 07:51 PM

..so, don't be afraid my posts, nice people! (I don't visit often) bye!
Originally posted by whisperingbarfly:

BOXERS OR BRIEFS?

ahem, BOXERS, of course. OK, so long folks!

licksy

11-07-2003, 08:33 PM

Profile for (h)helliott

Member Status: Member

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SarahC

11-07-2003, 09:12 PM

I find thid thread very comforting, but at the same time really sad....

i wish i could've told elliott how much his music effected my life, as I am sure most of you all do too.

It's cool to read things he wrote though.... thanks for sharing thoes posts.

hightowersmith

11-07-2003, 10:20 PM

Does anyone know what exactly the name (h)hhelliott means, or who the blether is?

Then q.

Hightower

hightowersmith

11-07-2003, 10:21 PM

And does anyone know the song references?

And can anyone differentiate for me my ass from a hole in the ground?

I feel clueless. So unhipster.

OK.

Hightower

kim

11-07-2003, 10:31 PM

:lol: If you're unhip, then I'm right there with you, so don't worry. (or maybe you should :eek: )
I don;t know what the blether means. As for (h)helliott, I guess that's just how he signed in? I'm so clueless, myself. What do you mean by song references? I'd clear it up if I could, but like I say I'm not so in the know...
:darn:

hightowersmith

11-07-2003, 10:42 PM

I'm thinking of this part in particular:

"...i kiss goodbye the howling beast on the borderline that seperated you from me...(not my lyric, dammit.)"

And also the reference to people "running around with arrows in their hats".

Maggie's Farm is, of course, Mr. Bob Dylan.

Hightower

Monotype

11-07-2003, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by hightowersmith
I'm thinking of this part in particular:

"...i kiss goodbye the howling beast on the borderline that seperated you from me...(not my lyric, dammit.)"

And also the reference to people "running around with arrows in their hats".

Maggie's Farm is, of course, Mr. Bob Dylan.

Hightower

the howling beast lyric is dylan and the song idiot wind from blood on the tracks. (

h)helliott name was never explained, but 'elliott' and most of the names of that ilk were taken, and the blether which someone was posting under that alias on behalf of him a couple of times (though he posted under it too eventually) I always thought was a variant on blather....to talk endlessly or non sensically, I think there might have been another interpretation, but the haze of my brain forgets...:)

the arrow hats thing I think was elliotts way of talking, in reference to the fact that a lot of people were speaking ill rumours at the time......

ktothebbc

11-07-2003, 11:50 PM

Reading his words here on the board is almost more upsetting to me than reading his lyrics, because it's probably the closest most of us will come to having had an actual conversation with him, knowing how he spoke, what his personality was like...

Plus, I've been thinking about how he quoted the song Idiot Wind. It's such a fantastic song and it's easy to see why Elliott liked it. It seems to have a lot to do with the circumstances that caused him to post in the first place: people with arrows in their hats running around talking about him and his state of mind and body. If you keep that in mind, what he was going through at the time (I can't actually imagine) and then read the lyrics to Idiot Wind... well, damn, it's heavy stuff.

"Someone's got it in for me, they're planting stories in the press
Whoever it is I wish they'd cut it out but when they will I can only guess."

Check em out in entirety: http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/idiot.html

Here's the verse he particularly quoted, speaks to the experiences he must have been trying to get through at the time:

"I been double-crossed now for the very last time and now I'm finally free,
I kissed goodbye the howling beast on the borderline which separated you from me.
You'll never know the hurt I suffered nor the pain I rise above,
And I'll never know the same about you, your holiness or your kind of love,
And it makes me feel so sorry."

Elliott, dammit, I miss the hell out of you. :(

Sorry for the long post everyone, I'm just in a weird mood and this was on my mind. Had a rough day and I'm rambling. Thanks for reading.

XO,
Kev

licksy

11-08-2003, 06:28 AM

Not all the links will work :(
but still.... check these out

don't be scared of my posts... (http://web.archive.org/web/20011230204218/www.blamonet.com/2/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=000525)

don't be scared of my long hair... (http://web.archive.org/web/20011230194924/www.blamonet.com/2/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=000505)

:cow:

sombre winds

11-08-2003, 06:34 AM

I remember the visit; and the earlier one which was as close as some of us will ever have gotten to see the Elliott that friends describe as very funny.

These posts here were written at a particular point. Maggie's farm was about his old agent- who he had just terminated with and who was involved with Dreamworks.

And the arrows were because there was a lot of conflict among board members here and he was commenting on the conflict among us- which was about whether it was ok to wonder about his drug use or keep quiet about it since he had denied it.

The blether- and Charlie would know- appeared to be his girlfriend of the time who was from Scotland and somehow that seemed to some of us a word she might use- or his sister or both.

And hheliott- someone at the time explained that the (h) meant something that made sense but I don't remember,

the christophe

11-08-2003, 06:55 AM

wow :eek:
thank you so much for posting the link.
i cant believ it was 2 years ago. I cant believe i dared asking him 2 questions (which he never answered btw...)
i didnt remember that people were so suspicious at the time. but well i was close to woody and he had all these IP intelligence telling him that at least if it wasnt elliott it was someone posting from where elliott was (including japan once i think... though i'm not completely sure of it...)
and well, these posts with paul newman, bayley, flips, demo, woody, amy, logan, pieter, gina, rae,.... they're just :oh:

Miss Morgan

11-08-2003, 06:57 AM

Blether is a Scots word. It means a talking, especially gossiping, (stoping for a blether, having a blether) or someone who talks insesantly.
If he ever read Alasdair Gray, the word shows up quite a bit in his books as I remember.

sombre winds

11-08-2003, 07:03 AM

I don't know how you found those posts from Elliott- it's so wonderful to see them again- few as they are. I thought they were permanently gone.

I remember that he wrote a couple of nights between the last shows he played in the Northwest. People were so convinced it wasn't Elliott because hhelliott didn't talk the way Elliott did. His playfulness and humor wasn't something that we got to observe that much.

So thanks again.
Now if we could only find the note where he was recommending good books for a plane flight

the woody

11-08-2003, 08:17 AM

yeah well i remember i was the only one who thought it was him... Pfff. People's reasoning can be so poor i swear :rolleyes:.

licksy

11-08-2003, 08:59 AM

looks like the last post I can find a link to is christmas eve 2001, but unfortunately the post doesn't work, it's just a dead link... *shakes fist at the wayback machine...*

from a (as in 1) basement (http://web.archive.org/web/20020114014131/www.blamonet.com/cgi-bin/2/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=recent_user_posts&u=00006263)

amy atomica

11-08-2003, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by woody
yeah well i remember i was the only one who thought it was him... Pfff. People's reasoning can be so poor i swear :rolleyes:.

:lol: woody, you just woke me up and i didn't even have my coffee yet!!

the grace

11-08-2003, 09:46 AM

who were you back then, licksy?

thanks for keeping the threads - its lovely to see them again :yes:

the woody

11-08-2003, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by amy atomica
:lol: woody, you just woke me up and i didn't even have my coffee yet!!

I think history will remember one thing. Now what is it already, hmmm..... OH I KNOW! I KNOW! YOU WERE WRONG!!!!!!!!!

licksy

11-08-2003, 09:57 AM

I wasn't involved on the site then... I just tried a search with the wayback machine. Go to www.archive.org and try for yourself... type in whatever site you want and it will have archives from various dates going back a few years...
I saw him in december 1998 in dublin, ireland... it was on my birthday... he played again in september 2000 but i couldnt go because this daughter of mine...
http://www.hgc.ie/images/upload/lauren.jpg
was a wee thing back then... (neither of these dates have reviews in the shows section btw?

I used to lurk on the .net forum and registerd for tour date notifications which never came... can't understand how I didn't ever come here 'till... well, you know...

the grace

11-08-2003, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by licksy
I wasn't involved on the site then... I just tried a search with the wayback machine. Go to www.archive.org and try for yourself... type in whatever site you want and it will have archives from various dates going back a few years...
I saw him in december 1998 in dublin, ireland... it was on my birthday... he played again in september 2000 but i couldnt go because this daughter of mine...
http://www.hgc.ie/images/upload/lauren.jpg
was a wee thing back then... (neither of these dates have reviews in the shows section btw?

I used to lurk on the .net forum and registerd for tour date notifications which never came... can't understand how I didn't ever come here 'till... well, you know...

we can search for anything - like all those lost threads :eek:

gorgeous little one you've got there :)

amy atomica

11-08-2003, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by woody
I think history will remember one thing. Now what is it already, hmmm..... OH I KNOW! I KNOW! YOU WERE WRONG!!!!!!!!!

woody, i will carefully preserve the mythology. :-D

licksy

11-08-2003, 10:12 AM

You wont be able to find ALL the lost threads... :(
I guess it just archives at certain times so you've got snapshots of the site(s) at various times... then, all the functionality won't work, so though you will be able to see several links in the forum view, not all the links will work... c'est la vie, or as ned kelly may have said, 'such is life'.

Monotype

11-08-2003, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by woody
yeah well i remember i was the only one who thought it was him... Pfff. People's reasoning can be so poor i swear :rolleyes:.

pffffttt to you...I quietly exuded my belief that he was who he said he was....., one doesn't have to go to the top of a mountain and bellow from his lungs....., rather he can murmur sweet prophesy.....:)

Canary Yellow

11-08-2003, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by licksy
Not all the links will work :(
but still.... check these out

don't be scared of my posts... (http://web.archive.org/web/20011230204218/www.blamonet.com/2/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=000525)

don't be scared of my long hair... (http://web.archive.org/web/20011230194924/www.blamonet.com/2/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=000505)

:cow:

Oh! how did you make this work? I forgot how the old board looked...I forgot that lynsey once changed her name to just *...and, I can't believe I was running my mouth about how frizzy my hair gets...:rolleyes:

:(

the woody

11-08-2003, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by Monotype
pffffttt to you...I quietly exuded my belief that he was who he said he was....., one doesn't have to go to the top of a mountain and bellow from his lungs....., rather he can murmur sweet prophesy.....:)

That is true, and i remember it :-D, but then did you or did you not go down in the arena and defend me and your belief against everyone's ? :O
Understand that it then made me wonder whether you could have been lacking faith or... omg (covers mouth with hand) bollocks :O :-D?

:-D

Monotype

11-08-2003, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by woody
That is true, and i remember it :-D, but then did you or did you not go down in the arena and defend me and your belief against everyone's ? :O
Understand that it then made me wonder whether you could have been lacking faith or... omg (covers mouth with hand) bollocks :O :-D?

:-D

woody, I am the courageous and brave type you must realise that, and will defend to my death and beyond that what I rightfully believe in....:-p

BUT.....the reason I never stepped into the arena, is that a GLADIATOR like YOURSELF doesn't need anyone stepping in and swinging their sword around manically. I was aware that it's almost an insult to you to attempt to defend you in this manner. It's like Dolph Lundren walking onto a Steven Seagal movie set, Steven would just look at him blankly and with bemusement, and explain in orderly fashion he can kill 1000+ terrorists all on his own, and make (usually chef related) quips in the meantime....., get out Dolph! :-D

:mdk:

sombre winds

11-08-2003, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by woody
yeah well i remember i was the only one who thought it was him... Pfff. People's reasoning can be so poor i swear :rolleyes:.

Not so. I was definite,

the woody

11-08-2003, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by saydela
Not so. I was definite,

it is true. And so was demo a bit, and i think canary yellow and i dunno who else. Steve, and Steve, and all the people i told to :O

r-mutt

11-25-2003, 04:26 PM

this all just makes everything worse.
but i cant help reading.

joely

05-13-2004, 11:28 PM

i was a member of the hellfire website
before i joined sweetaddy, havent been there in a long time, not sure if he had left thier manangement team

thisismark

05-14-2004, 01:18 AM

maggie's farm is one of my favorite bob dylan songs... he was human after all... :(

it did feel good to read it.

Monotype

05-24-2004, 06:03 PM

*this thread needs a good humping*

hikat

05-24-2004, 07:43 PM

time is so funny.
it doesn't seem so long ago,
but then it does.

sombre winds

05-25-2004, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by fiercepanda
i was a member of the hellfire website
before i joined sweetaddy, havent been there in a long time, not sure if he had left thier manangement team

He posted on hellfire too- but I don't think anyone believed it was him. So did Sam- ditto.

eepee

05-25-2004, 05:12 AM

funny, i read those posts of (h)helliott's last year when someone linked them up, and for some reason, i thought by the 'lots of arrows in hats' reference, that elliott just noticed many people using a smiley of a cowbow wearing a ten gallon hat with an arrow through it. now i'm not sure why i thought that, i don't see a cowboy smiley...weird where the hell i came up with that idea.

hmm...smilies with hats

:wizard: :santa: :party: :pimp: :tacos: :hat:
and technically:
:deboned:

why did i think there was a cowboy one? i'm bonkers. well anyway, his way of describing the mudslinging or whatever is clever. i guess that went over my head but i thought it was cute when i believed he was just talking about a (nonexistent)cowboy smiley.

prettypistol27

05-26-2004, 09:50 PM

:lol: How I wish I was here back in the day!

Monotype

05-27-2004, 04:15 AM

Originally posted by number nine
He posted on hellfire too- but I don't think anyone believed it was him. So did Sam- ditto.

really I don't think I saw that....? as for Sam I hope you don't mean the post that was up signed as Sam Coomes claiming elliott needed help and wasn't returned his phonecalls, because I don't believe that was Sam for a minute. someone so gracious as to not not talk to the press after mr smiths death, certainly in life wouldn't post details of his addiction on a discussion forum, and tag on an advertisement for his latest record too, that seemed clearly a hoax...

sombre winds

05-27-2004, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by Monotype
really I don't think I saw that....? as for Sam I hope you don't mean the post that was up signed as Sam Coomes claiming elliott needed help and wasn't returned his phonecalls, because I don't believe that was Sam for a minute. someone so gracious as to not not talk to the press after mr smiths death, certainly in life wouldn't post details of his addiction on a discussion forum, and tag on an advertisement for his latest record too, that seemed clearly a hoax...

I know that everyone thought it was a hoax. Just as people here wouldn't have believed hhelliott if Charlie and Woody weren't so convinced. I don't think Elliott did or he wouldn't have dug it out of oblivion to respond to it. Sam is brilliant and if he wanted to send a message to Elliott, couldn't reach him in any other way and didn't want anyone but Elliott to know it was truly him- that's exactly what he would have written. This was on the board at a time when many people - or at least many outsiders- didn't know about Elliott's drug use and didn't know he wasn't talking to old friends. One of the reason's people were convinced it wasn't Sam was because they didn't believe he'd need to resort to a board to send Elliott a message. But at that time, that was the only way. It was also posted when a musician had just died.

prettypistol27

05-27-2004, 12:06 PM

That was cool of Sam, but for a lot of reasons it makes me sad :(

two-tts-too

06-22-2004, 03:25 AM

is it too late to post here?

Woody, did elliott ever meet you in (Paris) ?

sombre winds

06-22-2004, 03:57 AM

Originally posted by two-tts-too
is it too late to post here?

Woody, did elliott ever meet you in (Paris) ?

:(

Parliament of Fowls

06-22-2004, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by number nine
I know that everyone thought it was a hoax. Just as people here wouldn't have believed hhelliott if Charlie and Woody weren't so convinced. I don't think Elliott did or he wouldn't have dug it out of oblivion to respond to it. Sam is brilliant and if he wanted to send a message to Elliott, couldn't reach him in any other way and didn't want anyone but Elliott to know it was truly him- that's exactly what he would have written. This was on the board at a time when many people - or at least many outsiders- didn't know about Elliott's drug use and didn't know he wasn't talking to old friends. One of the reason's people were convinced it wasn't Sam was because they didn't believe he'd need to resort to a board to send Elliott a message. But at that time, that was the only way. It was also posted when a musician had just died.

that wasn't sam, the record advertisement at the end was too ridiculous, and sam had more tact than that. also, he seemed to kind of mind his own business about elliott for the most part after 2000. we can't assume everyone who claims to be a well known musician is actually who they say they are just cos in one instance a poster claiming to be elliott was actually elliott. there have been many imposters and trolls here over the years. the shocking part was that this one was for real.

i understand i'm replying to a post that's 7 months old ;)

sombre winds

06-22-2004, 04:22 AM

Originally posted by 6 inches
that wasn't sam, the record advertisement at the end was too ridiculous, and sam had more tact than that. also, he seemed to kind of mind his own business about elliott for the most part after 2000. we can't assume everyone who claims to be a well known musician is actually who they say they are just cos in one instance a poster claiming to be elliott was actually elliott. there have been many imposters and trolls here over the years. the shocking part was that this one was for real.

i understand i'm replying to a post that's 7 months old ;)

What's interesting about the "sam hoax" is that after a certain point the message was no longer accessible via search. It disappeared into the system. And then Elliott dug it out of oblivion and responded to it. He must have seen it on the board when it was posted because he went to great lengths to retrieve it several months later.

I think it was Sam exactly because he had too much tact to put that record ad at the end.

the woody

06-22-2004, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by two-tts-too
is it too late to post here?

Woody, did elliott ever meet you in (Paris) ?

I dont think he ever came back to paris after this one time when he said he would .

oh boy i wanted to go shake his hand.

Chunk

06-22-2004, 11:28 AM

what did elliott say in response to the "sam hoax"?

two-tts-too

06-23-2004, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by the woody
I dont think he ever came back to paris after this one time when he said he would .

oh boy i wanted to go shake his hand.

hmm.. that is too bad.

solveig

01-21-2005, 12:04 PM

oh my
:(

Dead Pilot

07-15-2005, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by licksy
Not all the links will work :(
but still.... check these out

don't be scared of my posts... (http://web.archive.org/web/20011230204218/www.blamonet.com/2/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=000525)

don't be scared of my long hair... (http://web.archive.org/web/20011230194924/www.blamonet.com/2/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=000505)

:cow:

They dont work for me. Could anyone be so kind as to print out what he said here in a post?

joely

07-15-2005, 01:59 AM

wow this is an oldie

elisabeth

07-15-2005, 09:25 AM

Yeah.

:(

candylion

07-15-2005, 10:28 AM

wow... i remember this thread. :(

revgoozen

07-15-2005, 01:51 PM

these quotes were from the thread that got me posting here to begin with... what odd memories. mike mckusker stepped up to welcome me despite the fact that several other people were taking pride in taking shots at me. things haven't changed much for newbies around here.

ParentheticalThought

07-15-2005, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by lift
They dont work for me. Could anyone be so kind as to print out what he said here in a post?

THIS IS MESSY AND OUT OF ORDER BUT HERE MOST OF THEM ARE. THE STUFF IN QUOTES WAS WRITTEN BY OTHER POSTERS AND ES RESPONDED:

"i dont think elliott is the webmaster of dreamworks these days :P"

...i ain't gonna work on maggie's farm no more...maybe charlie's farm...i've already planned to put at least a song up...maybe more than one...SOMEBODY ALREADY HAS, RIGHT?...now who might that be? THIS MESSAGE COURTESY OF THE BLETHER, but written by (h)hhelliott.

...i kiss goodbye the howling beast on the borderline that seperated you from me...(not my lyric, dammit.)

love to you all, even YOU and YERS,
elliott

"i dunno its sad really. i have this sick feeling that we will not see the new album, in legal form. (not gonna start a bootlegging argument) But i hope we do. even if its the last one, i hope its a blaze of glory (i mean retiring not anything else)"

I've had a sick feeling for a long time, but you will see LP6, IN LEGAL FORM (not that I care if people bootleg it). also, thanks for the photo album of letters and 2nd double disc. some of you sing better than me, of course. this record is not being held up by my (quite good) management or, some kind of corporate crap. I'm getting healthy after a bad time. 2 songs left to pick now from 40. i haven't died, y'know? (wished I had for awhile.) THIS MESSAGE APPEARS COURTESY OF THE BLETHER, but is from (h)hhelliott (i am not the blether, but i know...them.) sure seems like a lot of people on this thread running around with arrows in their hats. love to you all, m'friends. peace, (h)hhelliott (elliott)

...I ain't gonna work on maggie's farm no more...

i'm not a hero and you shouldn't be hated, but yes, e. you're completely wrong. sometimes i get TIRED. (no sarcasm implied) i slept on my f***ing arm wrong after 2 bad shows. should i have refused to try? apparently...to some...not in my opinion. i mean, if i'd cancelled with people already in the building...hmmm, same thread I guess...but i'd have felt like i let folks down without a try. performance minus risk equals BOREDOM for you and me. personally, i despise BORING PERFORMANCE. this tangled thread, however, makes me SMILE. it's my birthday today, i feel OK, so please don't infer any anger here, just a little clarification. perfection is not my ideal. it's an insult to the gods. love to you (i mean it) yer friend,
(h)hhelliott

NOT FROM THE BLETHER, but courtesy of...them, from (h)hhelliott (elliott)

...i ain't gonna work on maggie's farm no more...

the blether
Guest

I just want to set the record pretty straight.You can believe this post or not but I speak the truth.
1.Elliott's hand is fine now.I understand your concern but it is okay, no permanent damage thankfully.He was not on anything,he was not fucked up.He slept on his arm for the duration of the flight and lost all feeling.It was totally genuine and terribly upsetting for elliott, I reckon you guys can understand that knowing how important a functioning hand is to a guitar player !!!He didn't want to let anybody down by not playing.In hindsight maybe he should have to stop all the rumours and speculations,however ,there would still be whispers as to why he didn't play.I guess it was a no win situation for him.He had made the trip and had obviously not forseen his limb going numb for several hours, who would have?Instead of speculating about his performance can you perhaps consider how courageous it was of Elliott to go onstage knowing he would have difficulty playing.He is a very honest person, that's why you all care for him so much and he didn't want to let anyone down as you all mean so much to him.I think you should consider what has just been written as it is the truth.

2.Elliott is delighted to have a manager as decent as Scott.Scott is in no way "mis-managing "him.They both have the utmost respect for one another .Scott is a fantastic manager and tremendously well respected within the music industry.He knows how Elliott works and let's him get on with it without interfering.A manger does not have to check in on his artist everyday, that's just bothersome and pointless unless there really is something to talk about that's important.He is available to Elliott 24/7.
2b.As for somebody commenting that Scott wasn't at any of the December shows, why should he have been? When touring an artist will normally have a tour manager, so why should the manager be there ......to waste money?? If Elliott had felt it necessary for Scott to be present then he would have been there, it's that simple !!

ParentheticalThought

07-15-2005, 08:26 PM

3.Elliott is still working on the album, is that not allowed?I do understand that you all want to have a copy and that it has been taking longer than "usual" but please be patient, it is definitely worth the wait.He knows you all want it to have been released 6 months ago but I know you don't want to put him under pressure to release just any old album.....yeah,I know even that may seem great right now but not really,eh?
Thank you all for your support, it really is appreciated.You all seem really nice and I've met a good few thousand of you !! Elliott is really lucky to have people like you to appreciate his music and stand by him(he's worth it).Don't worry, he's in several pairs of loving and capable hands.
Much love to you all

ParentheticalThought

07-15-2005, 08:29 PM

Profile for (h)helliott

Member Status: Member

Member Number: 6263

Registered: December 13, 2001

Posts: 23

Occupation: singer

Homepage: http://here

Interests: everything, except Albini's rants

ParentheticalThought

07-15-2005, 08:30 PM

...I don't visit (Paris) that often! (Next spring?)

Originally posted by waifstar:
how do you feel about high fives?
________________________________________
up high, down low...

________________________________________
Originally posted by amy atomica:
You're really freaking some people out!!!
________________________________________
don't be afraid of freaking some people out...

________________________________________
Originally posted by amy atomica:
What are you doing up so early?
________________________________________
insomnia
I am afraid of insomnia.

don't let that little blue grouch frighten you...

I'm sorry, I thought I'd scared you off with the little blue grouch. He's an insomniac, I'm certain of it. And he's just run out of klonopin, dammit. (legal klonopin, of course)

...but enough about drugs. I myself prefer the green, skeptical fellow. Not as grouchy, just a little unsure about the validity of this...questions, questions, hmmm...yes, well. He, or maybe she, is more like it, yes, I say, what-what.

...so, bye (for now) nice people...

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

...I can post to myself this way...I suppose...but, yet...then again, no. Sleep, I gotta try at least, but - wait a minute: that little blue grouch is laughing at me! Well...I'll have to sort him out later, that, that...grouch! Oh, the NERVE of that scowling fool, thinking he can just bark at me to use CAPITALS (which are highly irritating, I'm sorry)
See, insomnia.
Originally posted by whisperingbarfly:
oh now now Woody!
you can't possibly believe this poster!
I bet anyone on this board a hundred bucks it's not him
no $1,000 it's not him!

________________________________________
...it's unwise to gamble, unless you have a system...

...ask me, the imposter, a question, won't you? don't be afraid of the imposter...he's just having some fun speaking with some nice folks, no harm in that, is there?
[ December 18, 2001: Message edited by: (h)helliott ]
________________________________________
Originally posted by flipsgurl:
why do birds suddenly appear, every time you are near?
________________________________________
just like me, they long to be close to you
-the Carpenters
I have to try to sleep again, and then again, then again and again until it's back to the "Great American Music Hall."

...so, don't be afraid my posts, nice people! (I don't visit often) bye!

________________________________________
Originally posted by whisperingbarfly:
BOXERS OR BRIEFS?
________________________________________
ahem, BOXERS, of course. OK, so long folks!

TheREALClintEastwood

07-15-2005, 08:50 PM

So what was Ellitoo's screen name? Just "Elliott".... and I'm actually surprised he heard some of the covers you guys did....

last call

twotimes

07-16-2005, 12:27 AM

Thank you for posting these, I had never had a chance to see Elliott's late night dialogue. The little blue grouch has scowled at me too.
Does anyone have Elliott's response to the Sam thread saved? I didn't know that one existed. Thanks.

ParentheticalThought

07-16-2005, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by TheREALClintEastwood
So what was Ellitoo's screen name? Just "Elliott".... and I'm actually surprised he heard some of the covers you guys did....

last call

Elliott's screen name was (h)helliott (see my third post above). We think the Blether was his girlfriend at the time, Valerie, tho some people think it could have been his sister Ashley. Whoever it was signed on as a guest under Elliott's screen name.

Sorry this stuff is such a mess. I've been having trouble posting so I got it on there as quick as I could before my computer ate it and I had to start again. I don't know why that emoticon is in my first post. I didn't put it there and can't get rid of it.

space girl lost

07-16-2005, 08:08 AM

i never saw some of those later ones.
little blue grouch? eeeeh?

too bad about the archive.org ones. they worked a couple months back i thought.

TheREALClintEastwood

07-16-2005, 02:10 PM

this is real sweet addy history. it should be all put at the top of the page... everything he ever posted. Moderators, what do you say?

ktothebbc

07-16-2005, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by space girl lost
i never saw some of those later ones.
little blue grouch? eeeeh?
I think he was referring to different smilies.

flappersalley

07-16-2005, 05:03 PM

Where the hell is Demo?

Some of these posts remind me of some of the folks on the board, and I wonder if they are still alive, too.

I like the idea that he heard the compilation CD, and that he was entertained by them.

twotimes

07-17-2005, 03:39 PM

I really like the idea of having Elliott's posts archived on Sweetaddy! Perhaps we could collect all the confirmed Elliott postings and sticky them to the top of this discussion board, or maybe Charlie might even provide a link to them on his site. At any rate, if anyone has all of Elliott's postings, please pm me and we'll get something together. Thanks.

space girl lost

07-17-2005, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by ktothebbc
I think he was referring to different smilies.

i figured. was just wondering which one was the blue grouch and figured they might have been different at the time. :-o

lisa

07-25-2005, 03:06 AM

bumped for indie evan and lady nobody.

honey moon

07-25-2005, 05:56 AM

I love this thread. Elliott's posts definitely need to be preserved forever :heart:

Ian

07-25-2005, 06:06 AM

I remember this. I didn't post much but kinda assumed (first time round) was a hoax. Remember reading the second ones.

Also remember being sure that Sam Coomes post was a hoax. Was it actually real? It couldn't be. And di elliott actually respond to it? I think not. Elliott played with Sam in late 2001 right?

tiah

08-29-2005, 02:02 AM

i remember those posts...even though it is strange to reread them now,steve, there is soemthing in seeing them again...

sombre winds

08-29-2005, 04:30 AM

Originally posted by Ian
I remember this. I didn't post much but kinda assumed (first time round) was a hoax. Remember reading the second ones.

Also remember being sure that Sam Coomes post was a hoax. Was it actually real? It couldn't be. And di elliott actually respond to it? I think not. Elliott played with Sam in late 2001 right?

He really did respond to it. On the flaming lips hellfire back when Elliott's manager was their manager. I think I copied it and maybe I can find it. It was strange because I had tried to recheck for the "sam" post and it had completely disappeared until the response.
The original "sam" one was written at a time when Elliott was badly into drugs - even though we didn't know it- and also Elliott was not responding to phone calls or contact attempts from old friends. People thought it was a hoax not just because of the ad which I think was a way to sidetrack people but also because they figured that Sam would be able to get hold of Elliott. But he couldn't.
What's sad is that I don't think Elliott got a chance to reconnect with Sam before he died. So if that was Sam and Elliott then that was there last interaction.
And the last Elliott played with Sam was in Dec 2000 I think.

tiah

08-29-2005, 11:55 AM

i don't remember that "high five" one though! :D
reading that right now made me smile.

anneofthekrisspecial

10-10-2005, 10:26 PM

i'm bumpin' this

Dasha_Bah_Bah...

10-10-2005, 10:49 PM

Thanks for putting these up:heart:

bumbletort

10-11-2005, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by hightowersmith
Does anyone know what exactly the name (h)hhelliott means, or who the blether is?

Then q.

Hightower
Thank God somebody finally had the guts to throw themselves on that grenade.

I would have done it, but I didn't want to lose what few cool points are in my possession.

Blether. Could be wordplay on 'blather' and the 'ether.' The old catchphrase 'messages coming through the ether' from radio times, back when they thought there was an actual 'ether' that things had to be transmitted through. But the expression survived....

I'm thinking blether is Elliottese for the barely to be trusted medium of the internet...Blamonet may have furthered this.

Then again, I could be full of balloon juice and in possession of fewer points of cool than when I began this midnight ramble.

((h)hhelliott, of course, is dealt with easily: I've not the foggiest (apart from 'hell'))

meepmeep

10-11-2005, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by bumbletort
.

Blether. Could be wordplay on 'blather' and the 'ether.' The old catchphrase 'messages coming through the ether' from radio times, back when they thought there was an actual 'ether' that things had to be transmitted through. But the expression survived....

I could easily be wrong about this but I seem to remember that his gf at the time was Irish or Scottish & "blether" is some expression used by Irish or Scottish folk. So the idea is that the 'Blether' posting on Elliott's behalf was his Gf---Valerie?

Dead Pilot

10-11-2005, 01:28 AM

Pretty sure "Blether" is a Welsh (?) term for "ranter" or something along those lines.

I dont get the whole "Sam" thing. What happened?

fake concerns

03-03-2006, 11:27 PM

I'd like to know the answer to Idiot Kid's question... so ...

BUMP!!

sombre winds

03-03-2006, 11:59 PM

I could easily be wrong about this but I seem to remember that his gf at the time was Irish or Scottish & "blether" is some expression used by Irish or Scottish folk. So the idea is that the 'Blether' posting on Elliott's behalf was his Gf---Valerie?

Yes. And then Elliott posted under that name. It was Valerie but I think it was Valerie and Ashley who wrote those initial posts.

As for the ((h)helliott, that's more complicated. It was a pun of some kind. Someone who is better with smilies may be able to translate it. (h) means something. But where does (h)hhelliott come from?

As for the Sam stuff, isn't it discussed somewhere in here?

Summergirllv

03-04-2006, 01:04 PM

this thread title makes me cry and smile at once.

Fluke

03-04-2006, 01:28 PM

in msn (h) is he smiley with sunglasses... i very much doubt that's it though...

this thread title makes me cry and smile at once.

thats hard to do... i fidn similing the best option... :)

Summergirllv

03-04-2006, 01:31 PM

i cry alot :snail:

Fluke

03-04-2006, 01:34 PM

i cry alot :snail:

:heart: :)

sometimes simileys say more then words.... nhmm.

solveig

03-23-2006, 01:36 PM

time is so funny.
it doesn't seem so long ago,
but then it does.

suspended time
unresolved

Heliphyneau

03-23-2006, 01:50 PM

ripples still traveling
out from the center

:heart:

I think this ought to be in Memorial, so that it doesn't fall off the edge . . .

Summergirllv

03-23-2006, 02:46 PM

suspended time
unresolved

things i'd have to forget

hikat

04-29-2006, 11:04 PM

(h)hhello. found it.

Needs Wasabi

04-29-2006, 11:09 PM

This thread should be put in the memorial forum so we don't lose it. :heart:

solveig

04-30-2006, 12:54 PM

(h)hhello. found it.

:)

fake concerns

04-30-2006, 03:24 PM

i wouldn't be surprised if this is the little blue grouch himself (stolen off the archive.org addy):

sombre winds

04-30-2006, 10:51 PM

i wouldn't be surprised if this is the little blue grouch himself (stolen off the archive.org addy):

And so it is. Why did this ever get dropped?

ParentheticalThought

05-02-2006, 12:33 AM

And so it is. Why did this ever get dropped?

RESTORE THE GROUCH!

sombre winds

05-04-2006, 02:33 AM

Maybe Charlie or one of the other officials can move this to the other side so it doesn't disappear and reappear.

Heliphyneau

05-04-2006, 02:40 AM

Maybe Charlie or one of the other officials can move this to the other side so it doesn't disappear and reappear.

I sent a PM a little while ago asking that very thing. Hopefully it'll happen.

:xo:

Needs Wasabi

05-05-2006, 11:57 PM

It was moved!

fake concerns

05-06-2006, 11:53 PM

terrific! :D:heart::) now it's practically a permanent fixture.

meepmeep

08-10-2006, 03:03 AM

woah
eepee posted here. i remember her. she gave me an 'elliott' gift in portland a couple of years ago. wonder where she's at now.

scottie

08-26-2006, 10:55 PM

this should be a little higher in the forum.

fake concerns

08-28-2006, 06:32 PM

and now, it is.
:xo:

jinp6301

12-11-2006, 07:42 PM

wow, i just read this whole thread straight

it gives me chills

and where the heck is this thread located?

Needs Wasabi

12-11-2006, 07:50 PM

It's gone. It went in the great board crash of '02.

I think you can find it cached on the internet though. I don't know where. :(

jinp6301

12-11-2006, 09:07 PM

it came back up on the memorial forum

wierd

jamie lee

12-11-2006, 11:09 PM

i still think it needs to be stickied. :heart:

space girl lost

03-11-2007, 11:49 AM

BUUUUUUMP!!

can we PLEASE sticky this? :)

Starsailor

03-11-2007, 06:07 PM

It's gone. It went in the great board crash of '02.

I think you can find it cached on the internet though. I don't know where. :(

You can find it through archive.org's Wayback Machine.

But yes, it DEFINITELY should be stickied. No one wants this to get lost again.

snowballinhell

03-12-2007, 06:56 PM

wow.. i just discovered this..
how was it determined to be elliott for certain, anyone know?

weird.. it puts me right back to my insomnia problems while trying to get off of the same tranquilizer.. clonopin.. ug! poor elliott.. i can sure relate.. at least he seemed in a pretty good mood all things considering.. (apologizing for being a little blue/grouchy.. smiley..:\ wonder which smiley?)

how cool he graced the board..
ghost

space girl lost

03-12-2007, 07:03 PM

regarding the little blue grouch... check about 17 posts prior. thereabouts.

snowballinhell

03-12-2007, 07:43 PM

regarding the little blue grouch... check about 17 posts prior. thereabouts.

thanks!
i stopped reading at like page 4..
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9895/elliottbluegrouchjs8.gif
duly added to my collection at cootieland..
ghost

sombre winds

03-13-2007, 12:25 AM

snowballinhell

03-13-2007, 02:57 PM

It was Elliott. Charlie confirmed it. That tranquilizer was responsible for some of his memory problems with songs that left him sounding out of it at some shows. I also mentioned in another thread emailing him that night and it was clear from his response that it was Elliott. Although I never doubted it was him to begin with.

i can absolutely understand the trouble with the clonopin..
i was unconscious half the time while on it and withdrawls were terrible..
plus when you are depressed you often take more than you should.. i did this with xanax as well.. with the same kind of effects.. numb self-destructiveness and foggy memory/thinking.. man..

at least he came to the board and that makes you think he musta read probably times when he didn't post.. i know he sounds a little edgy in some of the comments, i think it's only natural that sensitive people develop that kind of edge to keep others' hurtful offhand comments from getting to them.. i've got the same sharp edges even though i'm a friendly ghost so i get that..

you emailed him? i woulda been too chicken!!
ghost
;)

sombre winds

03-14-2007, 03:08 AM

Those first posts were funny and he was in a good mood in spite of his insomnia. One was the don't be afraid of my long hair thread. I can't remember the other one from the same night. He was quick and witty. People didn't believe it was Elliott (I think because he was so playful.) Such a contrast to the reports from his performance the following day.

He definitely did read the board at times when he didn't post.

snowballinhell

03-14-2007, 01:14 PM

that's so cool..
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1522/elliottbluegrouchuu7.gif
and we definitely should bring back his little blue grouch..
ghost

fake concerns

03-14-2007, 04:41 PM

sombre winds

03-14-2007, 08:56 PM

I think one was hair and the other was something about not being afraid of the blue smilie. I don't remember a don't be afraid of my posts.
He also answered someone's question about what to read on a long plane flight.

fake concerns

03-14-2007, 09:12 PM

don't be scared of my posts... (http://web.archive.org/web/20011230204218/www.blamonet.com/2/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=000525)

sombre winds

03-14-2007, 09:19 PM

don't be scared of my posts... (http://web.archive.org/web/20011230204218/www.blamonet.com/2/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=000525)

Thanks. He had a great sense of humor didn't he?

Needs Wasabi

03-14-2007, 09:44 PM

...Elliott posted like this too......

...cool...

:D

fake concerns

03-14-2007, 10:49 PM

Yes, Rae, he really did. :lol:
I love the post where he's contemplating the differences between http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9895/elliottbluegrouchjs8.gif and :evil:.

I prefer the green skeptical fellow, too, myself. :)

recordrunning

03-15-2007, 05:07 AM

don't be scared of my posts... (http://web.archive.org/web/20011230204218/www.blamonet.com/2/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=000525)

Wow, that was weird. :lol:

homemadealliance

04-11-2007, 11:20 PM

wow reading those made me feel closer to him, and then suddenly terribly sad.
he was a sweetly funny guy though. oh elliott.

i miss you.

space girl lost

04-25-2007, 08:30 AM

this was posted over in the main forum and i was reminded of it once again. i don't know if it was ever confirmed to be him, but what the hell... i'll stick it here for safe-keeping.

[Deck PSU...?

Elliott Smith
- 25th Nov 2002 16:57
After repairing my right-side (deck/transport) power supply, it then was dropped, and the plastic "rails" or slotted holders for the 4 heat sink edges broke apart, well really fractured.
Does anyone know what kind of plastic that is, or know where replacement ones could be found? Any info would be great...I'm toward the beginning of a long trip into techland (which I like).
thanks,
Elliott Smith]

space girl lost

05-28-2007, 11:35 AM

bumping back up as it fell off the board into the abyss again.

consisting

06-12-2007, 04:21 PM

http://web.archive.org/web/20011230195418/www.blamonet.com/2/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=000505&p=2

Page 2 of the thread "don't be scared of my long hair... ", his post is as follows, i put what he said in bold.

(h)helliott
Member

posted December 18, 2001 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by giantsteps:

let's hear it for long hair!
(i've been letting mine grow out...it takes forever...arrgh...i'm at that "just long enough to look messy, but not long enough to look cool" stage)

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Churchill: "...if you're going through hell, keep going..." right on!

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Posts: 25 | Registered: Dec 2001 | IP: Logged

GeorgiaGeorgia

06-30-2007, 12:37 AM

I really don't think that was him, does anyone have a compelling argument for why that isn't just a fake?

GeorgiaGeorgia

06-30-2007, 12:48 AM

sombre winds

06-30-2007, 01:30 AM

I don't not believe it was him because of what was said, it's just he said he never even read his own reviews for example, so why would he go chat online with his fans and post about his hair? i guess we'll never know for sure

We do know for sure. It was definitely Elliott. We know that for several reasons. One reason is that Charlie said it was Elliott and Charlie had been in email contact with Elliott and Valerie and then Jennifer. He wasn't "talking about his hair"- he was kidding around.

The night he started those 2 threads was after his San Francisco performance in 2001. He couldn't sleep and came on late at night and had fun with people.

Elliott made other posts such as commenting on the arrows in people's hats.

Most people faking Elliott would have acted very differently. One of the reasons so few people believed it was Elliott at the time was that he was funny and clever and didn't act depressed at all. A fake would have acted more like the Elliott in that girl's fake story about meeting Elliott.

(Also the blether was Valerie and Elliott's sister plus Elliott used that as well.)

Guest

07-01-2007, 07:56 AM

Summergirllv

07-06-2007, 01:11 AM

aren't we all

perhaps we don't even know what (if anything) to think of ourselves

consisting

08-06-2007, 08:17 PM

bumping so it doesnt get lost..

consisting

10-14-2007, 02:44 AM

bump again out of the darkness

lost cause

10-14-2007, 11:26 PM

A bump for appreciation of your diligent bumping.

robot hand

10-19-2007, 10:18 PM

yet another bump, for recency.

anti

10-19-2007, 11:28 PM

i personally think that the "scared of my posts" thread might just the greatest thread in the history of sweet addy ... :D

i love it that we share some of the same writing quirks ... now i can only aspire to be nearly as witty ... his rant about the blue grouch still makes me giggle, and ive read it a million times.

makes me kick myself for not hunting down sweet addy sooner than i did ... and the arguments over whether or not it was him are just priceless .... can't you just see him slumped in front of the computer in the middle of the night (like weve all done before), reading the arguments for why he wasn't, well, him and getting a great chuckle out of it. :yes: i just love it, every word of it, i've heard there were other threads that the wayback didn't catch ... i'd loveeeeee to find copies of them floating around someday.

if only, if only ...

pokey

10-21-2007, 01:57 AM

and I bump because this is one of those threads I usually can post in without trouble argument or misunderstanding
also, bump for redundancy

DrHibbert

10-22-2007, 10:00 AM

and I bump because this is one of those threads I usually can post in without trouble argument or misunderstanding
also, bump for redundancy

What are you talking about!? I don't think it's redundant at ALL. That's it, this thread is going to hell.

:cow:

pokey

10-22-2007, 10:21 AM

ok :cry:

Dillon

10-24-2007, 06:36 PM

I must be a wimp; I almost cried when I read his old posts. Even so, it was nice to see such a playful and normal side of him. He was really a great guy.

:xo:

Saskia

11-23-2007, 01:29 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by fake concerns View Post
don't be scared of my posts...
don`t be scared of my long hair...

hey you guys,
i know i step by very little and i think i never posted (i`m the reading type y`know?) but i was wondering if anyone would be so sweet to put up or send the hair/post thread again... the webarchieve doesn't work for me. i drives me crazy!

love,
saskia

consisting

01-10-2008, 07:45 PM

bump out of the darkness

Beanhead

01-10-2008, 08:35 PM

"perfection is not my ideal. it's an insult to the gods."

I like Elliott Smith.

ilovemusic

03-09-2008, 08:00 PM

tomislav

05-24-2008, 10:52 AM

bump?

reading those were sweet. yay for wayback machine.

Freud's assistant

06-19-2008, 01:48 AM

this needdss to be stickied

hoz

07-08-2008, 08:21 PM

i'm really missing Elliott today.
Listening to songs like Waltz #2 "I'm never gonna know you now, but i'm gonna love you anyhow". So true.

Listening to Heatmiser songs too, You Gotta Move "Your just below Dallas town..." i keep thinking about his life and him growing up and stuff.
I can only read about him in the books i have on him, and how i will never know or meet him, but i'm gonna love him anyhow.

It kills me that i'll never meet or see him, all i have i have is his music. his wonderful, wonderful music.
And even his music is making me more depressed because i am thinking of all this.

i just had to get those words out of me to people who understand.

I completely understand you mate. I wasn't even a fan while he was alive, I never had the chance to see him, wait for the release of a new album, or anything like that. I dunno what to say that you haven't.

People really need to look here more often.

this needdss to be stickied

It definitely does.

Galya

11-02-2008, 12:44 AM

sticky please

lisangeles

11-15-2008, 03:25 PM

"perfection is not my ideal. it's an insult to the gods."

I like Elliott Smith.

This is a recurring theme of Elliot's, isn't it. He also said, between songs at a show, (sunset junction? I should verify this) "Fucking up is part of it man" I think he wanted humans to be compassionate about ourselves when it comes to imperfection and failure.

I just discovered this thread and find it both eery and comforting- "The Apocryphal Postings of Elliott Smith". And I love how Woody never doubted it was him. Woody, you're the hero of this story for never doubting.

I also love flipsgurl for posting "why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near" and how great was his response to finish the lyric? I like to think he could take in the love that people, even strangers feel for him. He appears on the board and all the shy forest creatures want to say hello like he's Snow White on a walk through the woods.

Just joined the forum and am loving it. So much to explore.