er... Heath Ledger is dead

[pcianciaruso]

he OD'd in his apartment


http://www.nypost.com/seven/01222008/news/regionalnews/heath_ledger_dead_916418.htm

thoughts?

[_sean_]

Sad news.

I thought Heath had a really promosing career in acting ahead of him. I was really excited about his role as the Joker.

[:::::::::::::::::::::::::]

Whatttt!!???

Wow, I don't even know what to say. When someone young and blooming dies it comes across as a bit surreal to me.

It'll feel weird watching the Dark Knight.

[Dillon]

Oh my fucking god, I thought you were kidding until I looked it up. What. The. Fuck. Unbelievable.

[placeholder86]

Holy Shit!!! :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O

[Needs Wasabi]

That's fucked up. Renfro and now him.

[pcianciaruso]

pretty crazy. he played a good dylan in 'im not there'

and knights tale was awesome.

weird to see the kind of distraught that can overcome somebody

[lisa]

he was one of my favorite actors around.. this sucks.

i seriously thought they were lying when someone told me this at work a few minutes ago :(

he was great in im not there... and brokeback.. and 10 things... monsters ball... the patriot

[rob87]

So fuckin' sad. He seemed like he was just starting to get really good...

[Martijn]

The found him wearing the Joker's facepaint and with a 12" dildo in his rectum.....what the..

[peaceofmind]

wow, i thought this was a joke at first...sad, though.

[Ernestine]

Ouch...this is a very sad news...
I feel really sorry for him an his family&friends

[placeholder86]

The found him wearing the Joker's facepaint and with a 12" dildo in his rectum.....what the..

are you serious?

[lisa]

theyre saying he oded and that there were sleeping pills all over the apartment... hmm, i dunno about that.

[Mister Grieves]

It's a shame too.. he was looking like a damn good Joker for the Dark Knight.

[lisa]

are you serious?
no hes being a dick

[peaceofmind]

are you serious?

hahaha no i don't think he was

[errorinparagon]

I KNOW. ugh. I'm going to cry.

Aside from that, I'm speechless.

:runs off to watch 10 things i hate about you:

[TempodiMorire]

The found him wearing the Joker's facepaint and with a 12" dildo in his rectum.....what the..

I'm not one to say "its a bit soon to be joking about it" but for fuck sake man, it was less than 2 hours ago.

[cat]

That's really sad..

[pcianciaruso]

on TV they're saying that the apartment he was found dead in was owned by Mary-Kate Olsen.

and theyre saying the body is still inside the apartment (weird_

[Martijn]

no hes being a dick

I wasn't
it's what the police report said

[inge]

I'm speechless D: He was one of the few actors I actually knew by name, face and could list movies for... wow, what a shock... very sad news :(

[Martijn]

ok...that was fake..someone hacked wikipedia...all the links that were showing a penis should have warned me.

[Needs Wasabi]

The whole thing about MK Olsen's apartment is fucked up to the extreme. I'm watching CNN Headline News right now and they are talking to a guy who interviewed him 6 weeks ago and that he was acting strange the whole time.

[Mister Grieves]

apparently he had ACTUALLY had trouble sleeping because of the character of the Joker who he was playing.

What the fuck? Did the Joker actually kill Heath Ledger?

[kylmcg]

Having trouble sleeping doesn't justify ODing on sleeping pills. Heath Ledger killed Heath Ledger.

[Needs Wasabi]

The whole thing is weird to me.

I'm puzzled how he could submerge himself into playing a character that evil that it haunted him so badly that he killed himself.

[Billy Shears]

anyone who jokes about something like this...that's just disgusting, imo

think how you felt when elliott went and tell me other people don't care for this man the way you cared for him.

RIP Heath Ledger, I'll say a prayer for you. not one of my favorites, but so sad.

[Beanhead]

Whatttt!!???

Wow, I don't even know what to say. When someone young and blooming dies it comes across as a bit surreal to me.

It'll feel weird watching the Dark Knight.

.

[xangeleso]

All I can say is God bless him and his family. *sigh* :(

:xo: Stef

[Mister Grieves]

Well I just find it weird how a few weeks ago he said he was so haunted by the character of the Joker that he couldn't sleep.. and was on ambien.

[lisa]

Having trouble sleeping doesn't justify ODing on sleeping pills. Heath Ledger killed Heath Ledger.
this is stupid.

its been 3 hours, for everyone to be talkin shit before the coroners report is disgusting.


sleeping pills affect different peoples bodies different ways, and theyre easy to misuse/abuse.

[kylmcg]

this is stupid.

its been 3 hours, for everyone to be talkin shit before the coroners report is disgusting.


sleeping pills affect different peoples bodies different ways, and theyre easy to misuse/abuse.

How am I talking shit? I'm saying that it wasn't the joker that killed Heath but Heath that killed Heath. Am I wrong?

[pootiebigwang]

calm down, dears.

he'd already finished his batman scenes anyway, hadn't he?

yes but the problem i have is with the sequel.

this one is barely touching the joker and is dealing with harvey dent/two face.

the next one deals purely with the joker.

and i really do not want heath ledger to be replaced because whats the point of building a character up just to change the actor in the next movie?

[placeholder86]

who care about the fucking movie!!?!?!

A Man has died for fucks sake!!

Christ....

[Beanhead]

Haha. It's so funny how people jump to conclusions. They're like animals.

[Beanhead]

who care about the fucking movie!!?!?!

A Man has died for fucks sake!!

Christ....

.

[pootiebigwang]

who care about the fucking movie!!?!?!

A Man has died for fucks sake!!

Christ....

i dont know him or his family or his friends.

my life is in no way affected by his death.

the movies he could have been in though are now fucked.

and since i didnt know the man i care more about his films than the man himself.

sorry.

[placeholder86]

it could be natural causes...

Yeah.

Also, might not have been intentional......

[pcianciaruso]

yeah for real...

whatever it was that he was going through, we cant say and will never be able to

lets just let the man have his peace, whatever it was that happened.

[Shadow16nh]

This is really bumming me out, what a tremendous waste of talent. Its so damn sad...my roommate and I had tremendous respect for him and were certain he was going to be one of the greats of his generation.

[kylmcg]

it could be natural causes...

It's so funny how defensive people can be over someone they've never met. Reports say there are pills scattered all over the place. I think it may be wishful thinking to assume that it was natural don't you?

[The Sellout]

Well I just find it weird how a few weeks ago he said he was so haunted by the character of the Joker that he couldn't sleep.. and was on ambien.

from wikipedia:

Heath Ledger plays the Joker, whom the actor described as a "psychopathic, mass murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathy".[9] Nolan had wanted to work with Ledger on a number of projects in the past, but had been unable to do so.[10] When Ledger saw Batman Begins, he realized a way to make the character work in that film's tone,[11] and Nolan agreed upon his anarchic interpretation.[10] To prepare for the role he lived alone in a hotel room for a month, formulating the character's posture, voice and psychology.[8] While he initially found it difficult, Ledger was eventually able to generate a voice which did not sound like Jack Nicholson's take on the character in Tim Burton's 1989 Batman film.[12] He started a diary, in which he wrote the Joker's thoughts and feelings to guide himself during his performance.[9] He was also given Batman: The Killing Joke and Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth to read, which he "really tried to read [...] and put it down".[11] Ledger also cited inspiration in A Clockwork Orange and Sid Vicious.[13] Ultimately, "there’s nothing that [is] consistent", as his main objective was to frighten the audience.[13] The challenge of the role put a strain on Ledger's sleep patterns, finding himself unable to rest for more than a few hours each night.[9]

[pcianciaruso]

damn, i wonder if that character psychology thing is really what happened

this would be some case for the psych books

(not to be heartless or anything, i actually think this is quite terrible)

[placeholder86]

i dont know him or his family or his friends.

my life is in no way affected by his death.

the movies he could have been in though are now fucked.

and since i didnt know the man i care more about his films than the man himself.

sorry.

Even though I didnt know the guy personally, I find myself being more concerned with the fact that he has died and will never be seen or heard again, by anyone rather than him not being able to star in a film.

[placeholder86]

damn, i wonder if that character psychology thing is really what happened

this would be some case for the psych books

(not to be heartless or anything, i actually think this is quite terrible)

I remember reading abt something like this a while ago, actors who suffer these type of problems//They become consumed by the role and start to become the character...

[lisa]

also its possible to go into cardiac arrest when youre unable to sleep for extended periods of time. he was alone in the apartment for how long before he was found....

[kylmcg]

I'm saying it's a possibility,
all I meant for you was to keep your mind open,
because you were stating it clearly as suicide.
Sure, it might've been,
but there hasn't been enough study of the matter.
Additionally, the "pills scattered all over the place" isn't always described as that,
the media likes to latch on to things like that, and exaggerate.
I'm just trying not to assume anything.


Either way,
I agree with Paul,
let's leave him with his peace.

I never claimed it was suicide. It could very well have been unintentional. Either way there's no harm in speculation, he'll still be dead and they'll uncover the cause eventually. RIP Heath.

[pootiebigwang]

Even though I didnt know the guy personally, I find myself being more concerned with the fact that he has died and will never be seen or heard again, by anyone rather than him not being able to star in a film.

doesnt change the fact that i am more interested in seeing what will happen to the batman franchise without ledger in the mix anymore. cause i mean really i didnt like too many of the movies he was in with the exception of like 10 things i hate about you (heh). the guys could act though not going to lie even though i thought brokeback mountain was pretty overrated i thought he did an awesome job.

sucks that he is gone and it is undoubtedly sad but i won't lose any sleep over it.

[rob87]

Even though I didnt know the guy personally, I find myself being more concerned with the fact that he has died and will never be seen or heard again, by anyone rather than him not being able to star in a film.
I don't think anyone is debating the fact that Heath Ledger-the person's death and it's effect on his family and friends is more sad than the fact that it means some movie won't be made. But come on, is it wrong to be sad about him not being able to make any more movies? Just like a person might be sad about Elliott not being able to make any more music?

[Needs Wasabi]

Okay. It's not MK Olsen's apartment.

[Madame Sabatier]

I haven't felt this shocked since Aaliyah died.

[lisa]

doesnt change the fact that i am more interested in seeing what will happen to the batman franchise without ledger in the mix anymore. cause i mean really i didnt like too many of the movies he was in with the exception of like 10 things i hate about you (heh). the guys could act though not going to lie even though i thought brokeback mountain was pretty overrated i thought he did an awesome job.

sucks that he is gone and it is undoubtedly sad but i won't lose any sleep over it.
who cares about batman. what a stupid thing to give a shit about.

its the fact that he wont grow into the great actor of his generation that he was meant to be that is fucking tragic.



and of course it wasnt MK olsens apartment. he was in his own apartment, his maid found him and tried to wake him up for his massage.

[fake concerns]

this is so sad. :( he was so talented, too.
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[Mister Grieves]

His role as Joker is kind of important because it'll be his last role; what people probably remember him most for.

So..Batman is kind of important. Not really..but kind of.

[The Sellout]

this reminds me a lot of River Phoenix. A lot.

[third]

fuck.

[recordrunning]

I haven't felt this shocked since Aaliyah died.

Ditto. I actually had the same response. Very sad. :(

[Fantasy Paradox]

it could be natural causes...

thank you.


rip heath ledger.
i loved a knights tale, and i thoroughly enjoyed you.

[lisa]

this reminds me a lot of River Phoenix. A lot.
yep.


rivers last movie never came out because he hadnt finished the last scene and they felt it would be disrespectful.. i wonder what the case will be for the dark night.

[eme]

His role as Joker is kind of important because it'll be his last role; what people probably remember him most for.

So..Batman is kind of important. Not really..but kind of.

Yeah but the jackass above was talking about what was going to happen to the character in the next movie, which will rile people up here.

That being said I rarely have such a connection with any actor (other than the occasional fleeting crush) so the only thing I feel while reading through the news story is wow wtf. Not losing sleep over it though.

[candylion]

this news makes me sad indeed...

[TheKeenGuy]

yep.


rivers last movie never came out because he hadnt finished the last scene and they felt it would be disrespectful.. i wonder what the case will be for the dark night.
I'm pretty sure they've wrapped filming by now. Terry Gilliam's The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus is more likely to be seriously affected.

[Fantasy Paradox]

& the dark knight is finished, i believe.

[pootiebigwang]

who cares about batman. what a stupid thing to give a shit about.

its the fact that he wont grow into the great actor of his generation that he was meant to be that is fucking tragic.



and of course it wasnt MK olsens apartment. he was in his own apartment, his maid found him and tried to wake him up for his massage.

um i care about batman.

and i can damn well guarantee you that there are more people that give a shit about batman than they do about the "actor that could have been the greatest actor alive".

hell had he not been in the new batman movie i probably wouldnt be bothered about it at all.

this is the same guy involved in the brothers grimm and a knights tale for christ sake.

up until about 2 years ago the guy was no named and just because him and jake had fake sex on screen the guy is now considered some god of cinema?

it sucks that he dies i dont deny it and it is sad i dont deny it but if it wasnt for the major hype surrounding the new batman flick this would not have been as shocking to many people as it is now cause i guarantee that there are people who could give a shit about brokeback mountain and im not there (me being one of them) and care much more about the awesomeness that is batman.

[pootiebigwang]

Yeah but the jackass above was talking about what was going to happen to the character in the next movie, which will rile people up here.

That being said I rarely have such a connection with any actor (other than the occasional fleeting crush) so the only thing I feel while reading through the news story is wow wtf. Not losing sleep over it though.

oh for christ's sake.

you are acting like i came on here and said that i am glad that he died.

i have said over and over that it is a damn shame that he is dead because it is the guy had talent and i am not going to deny it.

but you are saying that because he is dead i am not supposed to worry about a series that i happen to like a lot more than heath ledger?

if i had it my way there wouldnt be another batman flick after this at least one involving the joker out of respect for heath ledger's character.

its alright to be bothered but acting like i have pissed all over the man's grave is a lil ridiculous when i have not said anything offensive about the guy.

besides i think talking about the movies he was involved in is more respectful than judging if he committed suicide or not.

[Mister Grieves]

pootie, knights tale didn't blow your mind?

No offense to Heath and his career..but..A Knights Tale kind of really sucked.

[half asleep]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpNWy272Wxo

[lost cause]

Rest easy, man.
I was just talking with a friend about Dark Knight earlier today, after not having even thought of it for a few weeks. Strange. It's going to be very odd seeing it now.
As... um... less-than-stellar as it was, I used to have the entirety of A Knight's Tale memorized. And I still love Ten Things I Hate About You.
Sad indeed.

[El Scorcho]

Heath Ledger was pretty cool. This sucks. Fucking Hollywood pill bullshit. I blame the Olsen.

[rob87]

Just watched the trailer for TDK again.
Post-humous Oscar for Ledger next year?

[lisa]

um i care about batman.

and i can damn well guarantee you that there are more people that give a shit about batman than they do about the "actor that could have been the greatest actor alive".

hell had he not been in the new batman movie i probably wouldnt be bothered about it at all.

this is the same guy involved in the brothers grimm and a knights tale for christ sake.

up until about 2 years ago the guy was no named and just because him and jake had fake sex on screen the guy is now considered some god of cinema?

it sucks that he dies i dont deny it and it is sad i dont deny it but if it wasnt for the major hype surrounding the new batman flick this would not have been as shocking to many people as it is now cause i guarantee that there are people who could give a shit about brokeback mountain and im not there (me being one of them) and care much more about the awesomeness that is batman.
i just think its douchey and disrespectful to human life in general to come in here and be all like omg poor batman. wtf.

its a comic book series. i know that stuff is important to dudes like you and thats fine but its still disrespectful to be like, fuck this dude thats dead, now i dont get my next batman movie! could you be a bigger nerd living in your parents basement. ugh.



anyway im probably just overreacting cause i fell in love with him in 1999 in 10 things and have followed his career since and yea a nights tale wasnt worth watching so i never did but he generally had great taste in scrips and was just a great actor.

i didnt say "the greatest actor that ever lived" btw just that he could have been one of the best of his generation, no doubt a fabulous young actor already.

you may not care about im not there cause your taste in movies is quite limited but watching him in that role is pretty amazing. as well as monsters ball, and brokeback. all oscar worthy performances, not just because they "had fake sex" god your a homophobe... maybe watch the movie and youll understand.

wasted potential makes me sad.

but no people arent making a big deal because he was in some fucking batman movie, i had barely heard about that until today because i dont follow comic gayness. i and most of the world know him from his previous work.

[lisa]

Just watched the trailer for TDK again.
Post-humous Oscar for Ledger next year?
is there a trailer for this available that isnt just pics from set (thats all ive found so far)

[rob87]

is there a trailer for this available that isnt just pics from set (thats all ive found so far)
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/thedarkknight/
Trailer 2.

Preferably in HD.

[placeholder86]

Did anyone here see him in ' Candy '....I think it was called Candy...Like an oz version of requiem...It was good stuff.

[HunterThompson]

whoa.

[gabeisner]

this must suck for his family i mean he has a 2 year old daughter :(

[Littleone7]

i almost cried at work when i heard this:(

[half asleep]

I didn't cried but I was shocked. I couldn't believe it when I heard this morning. Such bad news but thats life.

[ktothebbc]

Poor fellow. He was talented, to be sure. I don't know much about him, but I feel like he was just coming into his own in recent years.

Regardless of whether this was accidental, intentional or what, let's take something positive away from this: Take care of yourselves. Take care of each other.

[Dillon]

I still can't believe this at all. The fact that "Heath Ledger" can be in front of "is dead" is shocking.

[pcianciaruso]

Regardless of whether this was accidental, intentional or what, let's take something positive away from this: Take care of yourselves. Take care of each other.


:yes:

keep your eyes open

[pootiebigwang]

i just think its douchey and disrespectful to human life in general to come in here and be all like omg poor batman. wtf.

its a comic book series. i know that stuff is important to dudes like you and thats fine but its still disrespectful to be like, fuck this dude thats dead, now i dont get my next batman movie! could you be a bigger nerd living in your parents basement. ugh.



anyway im probably just overreacting cause i fell in love with him in 1999 in 10 things and have followed his career since and yea a nights tale wasnt worth watching so i never did but he generally had great taste in scrips and was just a great actor.

i didnt say "the greatest actor that ever lived" btw just that he could have been one of the best of his generation, no doubt a fabulous young actor already.

you may not care about im not there cause your taste in movies is quite limited but watching him in that role is pretty amazing. as well as monsters ball, and brokeback. all oscar worthy performances, not just because they "had fake sex" god your a homophobe... maybe watch the movie and youll understand.

wasted potential makes me sad.

but no people arent making a big deal because he was in some fucking batman movie, i had barely heard about that until today because i dont follow comic gayness. i and most of the world know him from his previous work.

ooooh i love internet warz they are so awesome! you look so superior right now!

nevermind the fact that i stated that the guy had talent and that it was a damn shame that he died.

and no i do not live in my parents basement (i work 40+ hrs a week to keep it that way) but even if i was would that change anything? i mean its not like i am 30 or anything i mean im fucking 20 and in college. oh but it is definitely ok for you to judge my life style based on the fact that i enjoy batman (even though millions upon millions of people share my interest)

oh and i completely forgot that you were queen of film! i saw brokeback mountain and to be honest the fact that they were gay was not the reason i disliked it (in fact if you read earlier i said ledger did an awesome job in the movie almost as good as philip seymour hoffman was in capote but not quite) but more about the fact that if it wasn't for the fact that they were gay it would have been the same sappy bullshit love story that people have seen over and over.

and obviously my taste in film MUST be limited because i did not really feel i'm not there. i am not going to be some film douche and list the favorites or be like "i took like 400 film classes in college" i dont need to defend my film interests to somebody who thinks they know what i like based on that fact that i want to see the new batman feature (which i will repeat many people cannot wait to see). and if you havent even seen the previews who are you too judge rather or not i should be excited for this film.

way to be pretentious film snob i hope your 500 film classes and the 700 watchings of woody allen films have made you a better person.

but no you are right lets go back to talking about how he died that is much less morose than talking about the new batman picture (which i still can't wait for and still think ledger will play the performance of his life)

[simpsonopraphic]

That's too bad. The NYT obit made him seem like a pretty committed actor. His performance Brokeback Mountain was stellar, reminded me of a gay Woodrow Call.

Comics aren't gay though. Unless they're gay themed comics I guess. Why lisa did you say that? Ledger as Joker was a brilliant choice.

[lisa]

definitely the performance of his life. saw the preview. looks awesome.

still think being sad about not getting another is selfish and lame and dorky but thats fine. ill drop it.

edit: yeah definitely a brillaint choice because he was a brilliant and dedicated actor, the director had wanted to work with him many times before but he could never schedule it cause he was always booked on other films cause hes good at what he does. that was my point. im sad that he wont get to make any other films, nevermind just batman related ones.

[pootiebigwang]

im saying im sad that there wont be another one with HIM in it.

i honestly think that ledger will paint such a good picture of a psychopath that the thought of trying to use anyone else for any sequels would just be foolish.

they will crap out batman films till the day i die but only one will have ledger playing a role that nobody (including me) thought he could pull off.

and it will be fantastic.

[kuta]

ahh.. whatta shame :no::darn:

considered him a sleeping giant ever since TWO HANDS.

if anyone hasn't seen that flick yet, the career sparks definitely flew early wrt. the bloke's ability to act.



too bad the fella won't be making any more..
must be unbelieveable for the fam.
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*sigh

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[consisting]

Did anyone here see him in ' Candy '....I think it was called Candy...Like an oz version of requiem...It was good stuff.

i wasnt sure how it was going to be so i had my friend get me in for free to watch it (she worked at a theatre), it was a long time ago so i might not remember it all right but i thought it was pretty good, considering heath didn't usually do 'drug movies' (even though it was a lot more about his relationship with his girlfriend, and other things too)

the ending was so sad!

[The Sellout]

yeah, he certainly wasn't my favourite actor (i mean, he wasn't bad by any means, but i didn't see enough things with him in them). I think it's mostly the shock about it, and the fact that the guy really did have potential, and seriously seemed to be achieving it

[StellasAntics]

:(

I genuinely feel so distraught over this news; I always thought he was such a tremondous actor. I wasn't this upset over a public figures death since I was 8 when I found out James Deans passed away like 5 decades ago :\ I saw it on the news alongside his body being wheeled out with crowds and paparazzi's flashing away their cameras/phones. I was absolutely repulsed. REPULSED :mad:

I used to see him walking around Brooklyn all the time with his adorable little daughter and his wife sometimes. UGH, I recognized the building in the footage and my boyfriend works not too far from there and he said it was mayhem.

[sombre winds]

The media jumps on this stuff so quickly- they don't even bother to wait until they know what happened. Maybe he killed himself and maybe he didn't and maybe there will be no way to tell. But the media is reacting just as it did when Elliott died and people will think from now on that Heath Ledger killed himself intentionally even if the facts ultimately contradict that.

[Zach Hillman]

There's lots of other people that died today.

[Dead Pilot]

There's lots of other people that died today.

True. But he was the only person who died today whose art I admired. And for that, I think it's sad.

It's not discounting the fact that thousands have died today.

[rob87]

He was apparantly found lying naked, face down on his bed. Who would off themselves in the nude right before an appointment with a masseuse?
I really doubt it was suicide.

[pcianciaruso]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_on_en_mo/obit_ledger;_ylt=As.oopxk62cj4tIQEF0BE6Os0NUE

P.S. - Look at the name of the writer, haha, it was an addier!

[rlr_core]

i didn't think he had it in him.
very sad and a huge loss to the world of cinema.
I wasn't a huge fan or anything, he was a talented actor and apparently a really nice,humbel guy,but i found myself feeling very emotional after reading it.
r.i.p

[_sean_]

To me, this is what I find the most saddening.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/salexander15/Heath.jpg

When any person passes away at a young age they leave behind waayyy too much. My thoughts go out to his family & friends.

[Fantasy Paradox]

oh and i completely forgot that you were queen of film! i saw brokeback mountain and to be honest the fact that they were gay was not the reason i disliked it (in fact if you read earlier i said ledger did an awesome job in the movie almost as good as philip seymour hoffman was in capote but not quite) but more about the fact that if it wasn't for the fact that they were gay it would have been the same sappy bullshit love story that people have seen over and over.

I feel like the point of the movie wasn't the love story. it was the fact that they had to hide their love from their family and the public. i haven't seen it, but that's my understanding, and having not seen it i still think it's a sad story.

now can we stop the "internet warz" about someone who died a little more than 24 hours ago? you guys have different opinions, just shut the fuck up.

[Mypocketsmellikepot]

wow, you'd think this was the official heath ledger board. were you guys all like bff's with him or something?

[eme]

this is truly wtf worthy...I wonder if we'll ever get to see it:

..."I was obsessed with an artist by the name of Nick Drake," Ledger explained at a September 2007 Venice Film Festival press conference [via MTV.com]. Ledger was promoting I'm Not There at the time, in which he plays Bob Dylan, along with several other actors and actresses.

"I was obsessed with [Drake's] story and his music and I pursued it for a while and [i] still have hopes to kind of tell his story one day. But it kind of died away, faded away, because I...He was a very mysterious figure and I felt like I would be taking too many liberties."

....

Ledger created a black-and-white video clip that was shown at a pair of exhibits devoted to Drake last year, according to MTV.com and Billboard.com reports.

As the MTV.com report explains, "A representative for Drake's estate described the 'gorgeous' and 'extremely moving' clip as a stark black-and-white composition, consisting mainly of the director turning the camera on himself. In the end, Ledger is seen drowning himself in a bathtub."

The song playing during this is Drake's "Black Eyed Dog", purportedly the last song the English singer ever wrote and allegedly a reference to Winston Churchill's description of depression.

The estate of Nick Drake, which owns the Ledger video, has not yet decided whether to release it.

from Pitchfork: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/n...ake-connection

[The Sellout]

wow, that's really ominous.

to be fair, he would have made a pretty good Nick Drake i think

[placeholder86]

http://www.nme.com/news/nick-drake/33845

ah! you beat me to it....eerie connection..I was actually thinking, yesterday of how the incident was similar...

[Fantasy Paradox]

I just recently heard it wasn't intentional.

[StellasAntics]

wow, you'd think this was the official heath ledger board. were you guys all like bff's with him or something?

A very young, talented and promising actor just died. You don't have to be Heath's #1 fan to pay your condolences. Of course a lot of people are going to be shocked/saddened/surprised/dumbfounded by his death. River Phoenix all over again, except for this generation really.

[joega1111]

Have any of you seen the last photo taken of him before his death? Looks EXACTLY like a Nick Drake picture. Very eerie indeed, seeing as he died exactly how Nick did.

[wordy]

Melancholy

[jesterscourt]

Damn, I wanted to post the Pitchfork article about Nick Drake, as there seems to be a lot of Elliott Smith fans that like Nick Drake and vice versa.

I just heard (somewhere) they are pushing back the release of The Dark Knight to September. I don't understand this. I mean, it would be one thing if it were coming out in February and they pushed it back a month. But it wasn't coming out until the summer anyhow. And supposedly it's all in the can, just some post-production stuff to finish up on.

The big question is how the heck are they going to market this movie or is this going to be The Crow-esque...?

[pootiebigwang]

Damn, I wanted to post the Pitchfork article about Nick Drake, as there seems to be a lot of Elliott Smith fans that like Nick Drake and vice versa.

I just heard (somewhere) they are pushing back the release of The Dark Knight to September. I don't understand this. I mean, it would be one thing if it were coming out in February and they pushed it back a month. But it wasn't coming out until the summer anyhow. And supposedly it's all in the can, just some post-production stuff to finish up on.

The big question is how the heck are they going to market this movie or is this going to be The Crow-esque...?

dude don't you know you are being so disrespectful right now?

kidding.

the movie doesnt really need to be marketed a certain way. right now i think it stands on its own and should be just fine. i really hope they dont do something like "heath ledgers last performance!" or something like that.

the movie is still currently going to be released on the 18th of july and any other statement unless given by those that work for warner bros or the director himself should be taken as nothing more than a rumor.

[recordrunning]

The big question is how the heck are they going to market this movie or is this going to be The Crow-esque...?

I totally thought of The Crow, too. I was wondering why no one had mentioned the parallels there...

[lisa]

wow, you'd think this was the official heath ledger board. were you guys all like bff's with him or something?
omg one thread about the death of an academy award nominated (therefore well known) actor and we must totally be like bffs with him or else why would we care, want to discuss it, express our condolences... anna nicole got a ton of coverage too. its news, people will discuss it everywhere, fans or not.

if it were bright eyes i know you would have started a thread for it. is he your bff!?! omg really. wow.


but seriously, i too wonder how theyre gonna market it, and i think if they hold it off till sept its to give it more oscar chance as films released pre sept arent really given any consideration.. though comic films usually arent given any consideration either (beyond effects, etc).

just seeing the news constantly flashing clips with his crazy smile/voice in that film kinda freaks me out.

[the brew]

people are testy.

[pootiebigwang]

persepolis is film based off a comic that is currently up for an academy award for best animated film so if the film is done as well as people have hoped it still has a chance even though movies based on comics generally aren't favored in oscar races. but than again (other than persepolis and batman begins) there are very few comic movies worth even talking about when it comes to oscars.

i do not think they will change course on the release date there really is no need too like it was said earlier the movie still has a good 5 months to go before it is released which is plenty of time for grief. if the movie was released a month from now than yeah id definitely push it back but as it is there would really be no need to.

the marketing shouldn't change too much right now. they already did their fare share of marketing with the different websites (http://www.ibelieveinharveydent.com/ and http://www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/ click and drag to see) there might be a new trailer or two but right now it doesn't seem necessary do anything differently. there is enough buzz about the movie as is that nothing needs to be added or changed really.

again i hope they dont do what they did with alliyah(sp?) when queen of the damned came out and advertised it as the last movie she was part of.

that would be so disrespectful.

[lisa]

all the news stations are already going on about how its his "last completed performance" and showing the last footage of him on terrys film. its sad to me because he managed to keep his life basically under the radar despite his successful career, and now its almost becoming a joke like when anna nicole died.

yesterday there was actually a segment that went on in a deep tragic voice about the strange parallels between his and annas death "both were apparently suicidal!!" etc etc..

makes me wanna vomit.

[sombre winds]

all the news stations are already going on about how its his "last completed performance" and showing the last footage of him on terrys film. its sad to me because he managed to keep his life basically under the radar despite his successful career, and now its almost becoming a joke like when anna nicole died.

yesterday there was actually a segment that went on in a deep tragic voice about the strange parallels between his and annas death "both were apparently suicidal!!" etc etc..

makes me wanna vomit.

It's so typical that people and the media are jumping to suicide. People end up stuck believing all the initial bs like pills being scattered around the room or that he was found naked on the floor instead of in his bed with a sheet covering him. The police have reported that they are considering a possible drug overdose but whether it was accidental or intentional is unknown. But that initial misinformation is what sticks with people.

[lisa]

thats true. what ive heard that makes the most sense is that he had pneumonia and was on pills for that along with the anxiety and sleeping pills and all that together could mix wrong easily enough.

i thought it was pretty strange that people said he was naked on the floor in mk olsens apartment when his maid said she heard him asleep in bed snoring an hour before the masseuse got there so really, wtf. who would believe such ridiculousness.

i find it impossible to beleive someone with a baby in the middle of shooting a movie would do that on purpose. it takes a very specific kinda person to be that cruely selfish.

[nothehighnotesrgreat]

If Heath Ledger was indeed on Ambien, there is no telling what happened. It has been shown that many users of Ambien do strange things such as sleep walk, (right to their car and get in and drive!) (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/08/business/08ambien.html)

they go eat like animals while they sleep, http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/14/health/14sleep.html
or even unintentional overdose. http://www.drug-overdose.com/ambien.htm

Recently there was a local suicide where a man walked in front of a train. They are questioning his new use of Ambien.

It's a scary drug.

[heavymetalmouthagain]

this must suck for his family i mean he has a 2 year old daughter :(

really it's totaly shitty than!

[sombre winds]

thats true. what ive heard that makes the most sense is that he had pneumonia and was on pills for that along with the anxiety and sleeping pills and all that together could mix wrong easily enough.

i thought it was pretty strange that people said he was naked on the floor in mk olsens apartment when his maid said she heard him asleep in bed snoring an hour before the masseuse got there so really, wtf. who would believe such ridiculousness.

i find it impossible to beleive someone with a baby in the middle of shooting a movie would do that on purpose. it takes a very specific kinda person to be that cruely selfish.

I agree. The media are playing this up with all the Nick Drake stuff. Until the tox report is in we won't know. People sometimes don't realize that certain combinations of drugs are harmful- if he was on prescription antidepressants and sleep meds and took cold medication with morphine etc that could be lethal. You need to be able to wake up enough when you have a bad cold or pneumonia to cough or you can drown to death.

[sombre winds]

If Heath Ledger was indeed on Ambien, there is no telling what happened. It has been shown that many users of Ambien do strange things such as sleep walk, (right to their car and get in and drive!) (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/08/business/08ambien.html)

they go eat like animals while they sleep, http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/14/health/14sleep.html
or even unintentional overdose. http://www.drug-overdose.com/ambien.htm

Recently there was a local suicide where a man walked in front of a train. They are questioning his new use of Ambien.

It's a scary drug.

I wonder what dose those people were on and whether the basis of these horror stories is the scientologists again.

[consisting]

i dont think it has anything to do with scientologists, my roommate sleep eats all the time =X