XO and Figure 8 Reissued on Vinyl

[CalvinLaporte]

http://www.musicdirect.com/product/80977

http://www.musicdirect.com/product/80978

Apparently the re-issues are available in Feb 2008, I called Music Direct and they confirmed.

[Just another crowd]

Fuck yeah Biiiioootch!!

[some dude]

awesome!!!!
i bet all those people who bought them for $200 on ebay feel kinda stupid now.

[pootiebigwang]

haha awesome.

i bid on xo for like 60 bucks but stopped after that.

glad i lost now.

[Ian]

awesome!!!!
i bet all those people who bought them for $200 on ebay feel kinda stupid now.

maybe but they have the bongload editions. i mean it is different and if you're going to spend 200 dollars on a record widely available on cd then the difference probably does mean something to you.

(i don't have it on vinyl by the way.) (i may buy this reissue)

[Junk Bond Sam]

awesome!!!!
i bet all those people who bought them for $200 on ebay feel kinda stupid now.

:hate:

I had to trade some really valuable records for Figure 8 and Roman Candle, but hey! I can get XO now.

The early presses are worth more. Not that it matters, cause I wont be selling them, but as a collector, having the early pressings is a plus.

[caaat]

Yayyyyyyyy! Man, I wish they would do Roman Candle though.

[jetsetvenom]

BEST DAY OF MY LIFE.

[some dude]

i'm not really a collector so i don't care about having an early pressing or whatever. i really just like to own my favorite records on lp because the art work is bigger and i can display them and there's just something warm and fuzzy about hearing elliott on vinyl.

[jetsetvenom]

i'm not really a collector so i don't care about having an early pressing or whatever. i really just like to own my favorite records on lp because the art work is bigger and i can display them and there's just something warm and fuzzy about hearing elliott on vinyl.

My sentiments exactly. I wanted to pay the big bucks to have them on vinyl before. But not for collection purposes. I wanted to listen to them! But now I can do that for much cheaper!

Awesome.

[Liquid Sunshine]

why isn't the label interscope?

[lisa]

best xmas present ever.


okay roman candle would be an even better present, but this works too.

yaayyyy!!!!!!!!!

except boo to it charging more for shipping than for both albums!

how can it be 37$ to ship this across the boarder but if had an address in buffalo, 30 mins away, it would only cost me 6$ ughghghghh! i hate international shipping with a passion.

[johnnyqsack]

I just want Roman Candle. His self-titled and Roman Candle just seem to be made for vinyl.

[JacksonAlbracht]

http://www.musicdirect.com/product/80977

http://www.musicdirect.com/product/80978

Apparently the re-issues are available in Feb 2008, I called Music Direct and they confirmed.

Well well well. Look who it is. You should tell pitchfork too and rub it in Evan's face.

[Drunkship]

good shit, im finally gonna be complete then :D

[rubbsled]

Now I have incentive to fix my record player

[either.or.]

i want roman candle too, but hey, i'm not complaining. i've been looking for figure 8 EVERYWHERE.:yes:

[CalvinLaporte]

Well well well. Look who it is. You should tell pitchfork too and rub it in Evan's face.

Evan is too emotional these days, it would just crush him. Hope all things are good in SA.

[runnersdialzero]

Does anyone know if the mastering is different for the vinyl releases? The mastering on the CD version of Figure 8 is atrocious.

[mobygrape]

except boo to it charging more for shipping than for both albums!

thats an outage the shipping cost , even tho you cant ship media mail outside of the usa , i double lp is still around 8 dollars or less, there will be other venders who wont gouge you on the shipping costs , but dont you think you will be able to buy them locally in toronto........................well this will stabilize the price of the original bong loads , i have seen then go over 200 in some cases

[kuta]

:love: (h)happiness :love:

[robot hand]

where does side 2 begin on both of these albums?

[robot hand]

kuta :O :D

[LewdReed]

on xo, side 2 begins with waltz#1, as i recall

[Kazimierz]

Does anyone know if the mastering is different for the vinyl releases? The mastering on the CD version of Figure 8 is atrocious.

I would hope so, otherwise it's not gonna sound that great, someone should try emailing them

[Loveless]

Does anyone know if the mastering is different for the vinyl releases? The mastering on the CD version of Figure 8 is atrocious.

I definitely plan on getting the vinyl, but Figure 8 sounds fine on CD to me...

[ktothebbc]

Dear Internets,

I love you sometimes.

:heart:,
Kevin

[ktothebbc]

Oh my god. I just had the shittiest day today and this was the best news ever. :cry: :) :cry:

[jinp6301]

woot woot

you guys better upload a needledrop when you get it!

[CombatWombat]

The mastering on the CD version of Figure 8 is atrocious.

:therock:

[Bucket Destroyer]

I bought the New Moon vinyl a couple of days ago, now it sits atop my desk with Either/Or.

This is fantastic news about XO and Figure 8, not sure if I'll have enough money. Or if they even ship to Australia :ok:

[jinp6301]

:therock:
it really isint that good. its average for a late 90s, early 2000s album

[CombatWombat]

it really isint that good. its average for a late 90s, early 2000s album


See...I disagree...

I'd like to know WHY you think its not very good.

[ktothebbc]

BEST DAY OF MY LIFE.

:lol::yes:
I love your enthusiasm.

[charlie]

you are blessed kevin! i remember when u were at amoeba staring down that $100 copy of xo on the wall. remember to buy 5 now!

[ktothebbc]

you are blessed kevin! i remember when u were at amoeba staring down that $100 copy of xo on the wall. remember to buy 5 now!

I know!!!!! That's another factor of why I was all :cry: before! Only the Charlie knows that secret pain of mine, which was this day promptly dissolved. Hallelujah! Let the healing begin!

:jesus:

[jinp6301]

See...I disagree...

I'd like to know WHY you think its not very good.
less dynamic range and slight clipping.

its not a BIG deal. most of the albums I own have these problems, but it would be awesome if they got remastered from the original master tapes

[freckled star]

Wait, so my Bongload Figure 8 vinyl is (was) actually worth a considerable amount? What a strange thing to discover! If it is devalued now, it's fortunate that I don't really have any plans to part with it anyway.

[comin2anend]

awesome!!!!
i bet all those people who bought them for $200 on ebay feel kinda stupid now.

actually i wouldn't feel stupid because i know its an original...the way it should be.

[lisa]

except boo to it charging more for shipping than for both albums!

thats an outage the shipping cost , even tho you cant ship media mail outside of the usa , i double lp is still around 8 dollars or less, there will be other venders who wont gouge you on the shipping costs , but dont you think you will be able to buy them locally in toronto........................well this will stabilize the price of the original bong loads , i have seen then go over 200 in some cases
yeah i decided to wait it out, i just didnt want to at first in case it was some kind of joke or limited rerelease or something.. the idea of missing out on this makes my stomach turn and id definitely like to get it asap. but now that its popping up on other websites i think itll be fine and ill be able to get it cheap in stores come feb without shipping fees!

[mobygrape]

yeah i decided to wait it out, i just didnt want to at first in case it was some kind of joke or limited rerelease or something.. the idea of missing out on this makes my stomach turn and id definitely like to get it asap. but now that its popping up on other websites i think itll be fine and ill be able to get it cheap in stores come feb without shipping fees!

yeah there is nothing more disheatning than to find a cd/record for a great price, then when you look at the shipping, you realize you are being totally gouged , i ship records all over the world , so , im pretty hip on reasonable and customary shipping charges

[runnersdialzero]

less dynamic range and slight clipping.

its not a BIG deal. most of the albums I own have these problems, but it would be awesome if they got remastered from the original master tapes

I'm not targeting you here at all, but that's the problem with the typical horrible mastering job on recent records. We begin to get an attitude of "It's not a big deal, most new records have had their dynamic range neutered and clip like crazy".

The mastering on Figure 8 just sucks. It's not a Korn record, Figure 8 needs the dynamics and suffers because the dynamics have been squashed thanks to the way record companies work.

[facepaint87]

This is SO lame. Elliott's father, who is pretty much is in charge of what happens to Elliotts music, said before that the Bongload stuff wouldn't be touched. WTFT? So now their gonna inflate the hell out of the elliott smith rare vinyl market to make cheap clones of the sweet originals. On the figure 8 original for example, the vinyl is HEAVY. Its so lovely. Like original blue note jazz records from the 1950's. If anyone knows about those. A very special way of hearing the music. The reissue is going to be thinly pressed, budgeted garbage. This is such a disappointment. If they do make it, I hope its a piece of crap. Worth every $18.99 that you cheapskates are barely able to pay for it. Stick to your pirated MP3 files losers.

[jinp6301]

I'm not targeting you here at all, but that's the problem with the typical horrible mastering job on recent records. We begin to get an attitude of "It's not a big deal, most new records have had their dynamic range neutered and clip like crazy".

The mastering on Figure 8 just sucks. It's not a Korn record, Figure 8 needs the dynamics and suffers because the dynamics have been squashed thanks to the way record companies work.
dont I know it! But its done so often that im ehh about it. Look at the Pipettes album. The clipping is so apparent, you dont even need good gear to hear it.

[blunderful]

lol.. someone with two posts is trying to make assumptions about us

[McCoy]

Not just any two posts, but two posts that are identical.

[robot hand]

bonus points for using cheapskates though, no?

:-o

[bradleybee]

This is SO lame. Elliott's father, who is pretty much is in charge of what happens to Elliotts music, said before that the Bongload stuff wouldn't be touched. WTFT? So now their gonna inflate the hell out of the elliott smith rare vinyl market to make cheap clones of the sweet originals. On the figure 8 original for example, the vinyl is HEAVY. Its so lovely. Like original blue note jazz records from the 1950's. If anyone knows about those. A very special way of hearing the music. The reissue is going to be thinly pressed, budgeted garbage. This is such a disappointment. If they do make it, I hope its a piece of crap. Worth every $18.99 that you cheapskates are barely able to pay for it. Stick to your pirated MP3 files losers.

Funny post... So you didn't check the link, huh? Both are listed as 180g pressings.

There's lots of cool stuff on that website. Re-issues of old Prestige jazz records pressed on 45rpm LPs?!?!?!?!? :spit:

[lisa]

This is SO lame. Elliott's father, who is pretty much is in charge of what happens to Elliotts music, said before that the Bongload stuff wouldn't be touched. WTFT? So now their gonna inflate the hell out of the elliott smith rare vinyl market to make cheap clones of the sweet originals. On the figure 8 original for example, the vinyl is HEAVY. Its so lovely. Like original blue note jazz records from the 1950's. If anyone knows about those. A very special way of hearing the music. The reissue is going to be thinly pressed, budgeted garbage. This is such a disappointment. If they do make it, I hope its a piece of crap. Worth every $18.99 that you cheapskates are barely able to pay for it. Stick to your pirated MP3 files losers.
you are a fucking tard and youre just pissed cause you paid 2-300$ for them and were getting it now for 16$


pathetic.

[And_now_we_rise]

This is SO lame. Elliott's father, who is pretty much is in charge of what happens to Elliotts music, said before that the Bongload stuff wouldn't be touched. WTFT? So now their gonna inflate the hell out of the elliott smith rare vinyl market to make cheap clones of the sweet originals. On the figure 8 original for example, the vinyl is HEAVY. Its so lovely. Like original blue note jazz records from the 1950's. If anyone knows about those. A very special way of hearing the music. The reissue is going to be thinly pressed, budgeted garbage. This is such a disappointment. If they do make it, I hope its a piece of crap. Worth every $18.99 that you cheapskates are barely able to pay for it. Stick to your pirated MP3 files losers.

You know, of all the things I thought I might conceivably be insulted for on this board (bad taste, idiocy, being a twat, I dunno), I never thought it would be for being too poor to afford to spend several hundred dollars on a single LP.

*sigh*

[Drunkship]

except boo to it charging more for shipping than for both albums!

thats an outage the shipping cost , even tho you cant ship media mail outside of the usa , i double lp is still around 8 dollars or less, there will be other venders who wont gouge you on the shipping costs , but dont you think you will be able to buy them locally in toronto........................well this will stabilize the price of the original bong loads , i have seen then go over 200 in some cases

go to your local record store. its already available for pre-order. youll have to pay no shipping at all this way. (i already pre-ordered it and i live in holland, information in the computer also tells me its a 180gramms audiophyle pressing)

[jinp6301]

i have to say that i'm really suprised at the amount of people here that actually have turntables. or are you guys buying this so you can frame it on your wall, because thats what i'll probably do

[Drunkship]

i still play ze vinyls young buck...

havent you heard its hip to play vinyls?! its what the pitchfork kids do these days, that and walk round town with too big headphones.

[jinp6301]

I just cant afford a decent turntable and phono stage. I know if I get one, it'll at least have to be a cheap Music Hall or a mid level Technics. I never understood the need to play vinyls just so you can play vinyls. Most cheap TTs cant come close to a well desiged cheap vintage cd player anyways. :P

and I have big headphones! :D I just dont walk around with them :nerd:

[Drunkship]

i disagree!

a 80 dollar pickup beats a 80 dollar cd player, as long as your vinyl isnt damaged of course! if you wanna get a good pickup and dont want too spent too much on it, i recommend you get a 2nd hand one, and check if the element and needle on it are good. that way you can get a good pickup for about 10 buckeroonies!

post scriptum: im not an audiophile, they probably all hate me for saying this :D

[And_now_we_rise]

I found my parents old Pioneer turntable from the late seventies, and it's still awesome! Yesssss!

Hassle free vinyl collecting, via inheritance!

[jetsetvenom]

I found my parents old Pioneer turntable from the late seventies, and it's still awesome! Yesssss!

Hassle free vinyl collecting, via inheritance!

My father has a Technics table from the 80s he doesn't use any more, so I just stole that from him, and started gobbling up vinyl when I saw it in the store. I want a nicer turntable, but this will do until then!

[jinp6301]

I'm pretty interested in the reason why you guys chose vinyl over cds. I can guess a couple reasons, 1. its MUCH cheaper then buying new cds, 2. its cool to listen to vinyl supposedly :D

any other reasons I'm missing?

[Drunkship]

buying the oldies on vinyl is really cheap. its fun to have the originals (instead of a mp3), specially if it only cost you as much of a dollar for something as good as talk talk for example?
the big textsheets over the tiny cd booklets are great. and of course the full size artwork.

its really fun to play vinyls when you have friends over, much cosier!

[pcianciaruso]

buying the oldies on vinyl is really cheap. its fun to have the originals (instead of a mp3), specially if it only cost you as much of a dollar for something as good as talk talk for example?
the big textsheets over the tiny cd booklets are great. and of course the full size artwork.

its really fun to play vinyls when you have friends over, much cosier!

i agree with every point you just made.

my boss gave me this RCA Home Theater System with 5 speakers and a subwoofer, and it came with a 5cd changer and a turntable, so vinyls sound AMAZING in my room.

i also have my grandmothers old vinyl player, from the 50's or 60's, with the 2 speakers on the sides that fold out, its a magnavox i think, and its also incredible, but since i got the system from my boss i put the old one away, maybe save it for my youngsters, when vinyl becomes absolutely ancient

[charlie]

This is SO lame. Elliott's father, who is pretty much is in charge of what happens to Elliotts music, said before that the Bongload stuff wouldn't be touched. WTFT? So now their gonna inflate the hell out of the elliott smith rare vinyl market to make cheap clones of the sweet originals. On the figure 8 original for example, the vinyl is HEAVY. Its so lovely. Like original blue note jazz records from the 1950's. If anyone knows about those. A very special way of hearing the music. The reissue is going to be thinly pressed, budgeted garbage. This is such a disappointment. If they do make it, I hope its a piece of crap. Worth every $18.99 that you cheapskates are barely able to pay for it. Stick to your pirated MP3 files losers.

first of all, i've never heard elliott's dad say that bongload stuff wouldn't be touched. second of all the estate wasn't even aware of the reissue until it was posted on sweet addy. it is thought that interscope decided to do this reissue. hopefully they are as nice as the originals but please don't jump to any conclusions that elliott's family is to blame. i think they have taken great care to do the best they can when it comes to taking care of elliott's music.

[exliontamer]

It must be really hard to be a vinyl snob. boo hoo wah wah.

[And_now_we_rise]

I'm pretty interested in the reason why you guys chose vinyl over cds. I can guess a couple reasons, 1. its MUCH cheaper then buying new cds, 2. its cool to listen to vinyl supposedly :D

any other reasons I'm missing?

I think, also, that even if you don't have great equipment, the warm sound of vinyl is just kinda nice.

Oh, and let's not forget the extra b-sides and stuff they occasionally throw on the vinyl versions.

By the way, I really want a copy of Pink Moon on vinyl, because I think it is absolutely perfect for that medium.

[jetsetvenom]

I'm pretty interested in the reason why you guys chose vinyl over cds. I can guess a couple reasons, 1. its MUCH cheaper then buying new cds, 2. its cool to listen to vinyl supposedly :D

any other reasons I'm missing?

I have a good reason I like vinyl. I read it in a magazine. It's actually a quote, but I don't recall exactly what the quote was, so I'll give you the gist of it.

The person being interviewed drew an analogy to paintings.

The original painting is hanging in a museum, where only a select few can see it. But you can go buy the prints in the gift shop, or buy a postcard with the image on it. OR you could have the image on your computer

The same goes for music. The original tapes are in archives, or studios, where w very select amount of people (usually producers or whatever) have access to them. But you can go buy the vinyl (which in my opinion is the closest thing to a PHYSICAL recording), the CD (postcard!) or download the mp3 (digital image of the painting!)

I dont know... I thought that analogy was cool.

[jinp6301]

I think, also, that even if you don't have great equipment, the warm sound of vinyl is just kinda nice.

Oh, and let's not forget the extra b-sides and stuff they occasionally throw on the vinyl versions.

By the way, I really want a copy of Pink Moon on vinyl, because I think it is absolutely perfect for that medium.

ehh, the warmth of vinyl is so overrated. I personally like vinyl for the higher resolution and deeper bass that it gives over redbook cds. and personally, I think vinyl is usually better then cd because they master it better :)

I have a good reason I like vinyl. I read it in a magazine. It's actually a quote, but I don't recall exactly what the quote was, so I'll give you the gist of it.

The person being interviewed drew an analogy to paintings.

The original painting is hanging in a museum, where only a select few can see it. But you can go buy the prints in the gift shop, or buy a postcard with the image on it. OR you could have the image on your computer

The same goes for music. The original tapes are in archives, or studios, where w very select amount of people (usually producers or whatever) have access to them. But you can go buy the vinyl (which in my opinion is the closest thing to a PHYSICAL recording), the CD (postcard!) or download the mp3 (digital image of the painting!)

I dont know... I thought that analogy was cool.

Why do you think vinyl is the closest thing to a physical recording might I ask? Im not being a smartass, I'm just interested in your guys opinions. :D

[baz]

:hate:

I had to trade some really valuable records for Figure 8 and Roman Candle, but hey! I can get XO now.two of the first beatles', weren't it? ouch.

I've been looking around for figure 8 and xo for a while now, so I guess I'll have to settle for reissues.

[ktothebbc]

This is SO lame. Elliott's father, who is pretty much is in charge of what happens to Elliotts music, said before that the Bongload stuff wouldn't be touched. WTFT? So now their gonna inflate the hell out of the elliott smith rare vinyl market to make cheap clones of the sweet originals. On the figure 8 original for example, the vinyl is HEAVY. Its so lovely. Like original blue note jazz records from the 1950's. If anyone knows about those. A very special way of hearing the music. The reissue is going to be thinly pressed, budgeted garbage. This is such a disappointment. If they do make it, I hope its a piece of crap. Worth every $18.99 that you cheapskates are barely able to pay for it. Stick to your pirated MP3 files losers.

Actually, it's not just his dad, it's his whole family. And also, the Dreamworks (now Interscope) stuff works differently than the KRS and other indie stuff. There's simply more red tape to work around because of their corporate nature and how many times the label has changed hands.

And what's this got to do with the Bongload albums? All this does is make them more valuable as first pressings. (And by the way, before they went out of print, they cost about this much too, sillypants. Or is it somehow more honorable to pay price-gouged rates on eBay?)

Also, in terms of achieving total HEAVY-ocity, these are doin' it to ya in your earhole with 180 grams, fella. Put that in your Bongload and smoke it.

Can't wait for your third post.

first of all, i've never heard elliott's dad say that bongload stuff wouldn't be touched. second of all the estate wasn't even aware of the reissue until it was posted on sweet addy. it is thought that interscope decided to do this reissue. hopefully they are as nice as the originals but please don't jump to any conclusions that elliott's family is to blame. i think they have taken great care to do the best they can when it comes to taking of elliott's music.

Charlie's wallet is the one that says BAD MOTHERFUCKER (http://www.pulpfictionwallets.com/images/tanemb.jpg) on it.

http://www.destructoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/Jules%20Winnfield.jpg

[jetsetvenom]

ehh, the warmth of vinyl is so overrated. I personally like vinyl for the higher resolution and deeper bass that it gives over redbook cds. and personally, I think vinyl is usually better then cd because they master it better :)



Why do you think vinyl is the closest thing to a physical recording might I ask? Im not being a smartass, I'm just interested in your guys opinions. :D

Because it's a needle, being dragged over a bunch of grooves, and generating sound, not some laser reading a piece of plastic. I don't really know how to explain it. When I listen to vinyl, it's a more personal experience for me.

[recordrunning]

My dad used to play his records in the house. They all sounded like bacon cooking, so I guess I never really got the whole "superior sound" thing...

But I also never got why people my age thought they were "cool" when they listened to the same music as my dad, so... :lol:

[And_now_we_rise]

Did you ever think that perhaps he was actually cooking bacon all those times, and you just missed out?

[lisa]

But I also never got why people my age thought they were "cool" when they listened to the same music as my dad, so... :lol:
:ok: whats uncool about liking old music? my dad had good taste, i dont see how anyone could lol at the incredible music of that time.

[McCoy]

I am cool. And I happen to listen to a lot of the same music as my dad.

[recordrunning]

:ok: whats uncool about liking old music? my dad had good taste, i dont see how anyone could lol at the incredible music of that time.

Well... it isn't really cool or uncool. Everybody has their own taste. But when I was in high school, there were these kids who thought they were like... "unique" because they listened to music from the 60s and 70s. Personal taste is one thing, flaunting it like it makes you special (or better than others) is another. I always kind of laughed it off to myself because my dad is like the last person I'd think of as being cool for his taste in music...

And uh... seriously? I'm the only one familiar with the sound of a very old, worn out record? You know, when they skip? :ok: Those are the worst.
Obviously I understand that a new record on a good system isn't going to sound that awful, but... because I heard so much of that growing up, I associate vinyl with that kind of sound.

[loveishell7]

:ok: whats uncool about liking old music? my dad had good taste

With my dad, i learned my cool from the likes of Lionel Richie, Neil Diamond, Anne Murray, Alabama and Cher. Now, I do what i can to help, but its a long road to recovery...for both of us.

[jinp6301]

Well... it isn't really cool or uncool. Everybody has their own taste. But when I was in high school, there were these kids who thought they were like... "unique" because they listened to music from the 60s and 70s. Personal taste is one thing, flaunting it like it makes you special (or better than others) is another. I always kind of laughed it off to myself because my dad is like the last person I'd think of as being cool for his taste in music...

And uh... seriously? I'm the only one familiar with the sound of a very old, worn out record? You know, when they skip? :ok: Those are the worst.
Obviously I understand that a new record on a good system isn't going to sound that awful, but... because I heard so much of that growing up, I associate vinyl with that kind of sound.
pops and clicks are the worst

I hate when people dont take care of their vinyls. I have a friend who made his own record cleaning fluid following some instructions on the internet. Works like a charm!

[jinp6301]

Because it's a needle, being dragged over a bunch of grooves, and generating sound, not some laser reading a piece of plastic. I don't really know how to explain it. When I listen to vinyl, it's a more personal experience for me.
ok i think i see what youre saying. analog over digital!!! I totally understand! I'm the same way sometimes with some recordings. BTW, you probably dont know this, but if you want the sound of vinyl in digital format, theres something called a needledrop which is basically recording the sound of vinyl off of a turntable and recording into a computer (usually in .flac). It sounds pretty close to the real thing if the person whos recording has decent gear. I get my friend to do this for me all the time with new LPs that he gets

[The Sparrow]

pops and clicks are the worst

I hate when people dont take care of their vinyls. I have a friend who made his own record cleaning fluid following some instructions on the internet. Works like a charm!

I wouldn't mind getting the recipe (?) for that record cleaning solution if you have it / or anyone else's supermagic record cleaning tips. Also - once an old record develops a skip, is there any way to reverse it? I have a Duke Ellington / Count Basie LP that skips in ONE place. Bugs the hell out of me...

Sparrow

[meepghost]

maybe this will help

http://www.vinylrecordscollector.co.uk/text/vinylhist20.html

[jinp6301]

I wouldn't mind getting the recipe (?) for that record cleaning solution if you have it / or anyone else's supermagic record cleaning tips. Also - once an old record develops a skip, is there any way to reverse it? I have a Duke Ellington / Count Basie LP that skips in ONE place. Bugs the hell out of me...

Sparrow
i asked my friend about what he uses now and he told me that it took too long to make his own fluid now and just buys http://www.ttvj.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=95&zenid=412f7f7adaeab396357b3534466f65ce (extra strength) and it reduces pops and clicks

[baz]

I have a friend who made his own record cleaning fluid following some instructions on the internet. Works like a charm!I better the first time he used it was an anxious one. :scared:

[jinp6301]

I better the first time he used it was an anxious one. :scared:
heh, i dont think he was that scared since it was basically a solution of alcohol and jet dry with some other things

[facepaint87]

you are a fucking tard and youre just pissed cause you paid 2-300$ for them and were getting it now for 16$


pathetic.

Oh, don't you worry. I sold my MINT figure 8 as soon as I heard about the reissues. $185 Huh, people still paying a good price surprisingly. I paid $140 a year ago. Keeping my MINT Roman Candle LP on Domino tho. Biatch. They wont be reissuing that.

[facepaint87]

lol.. someone with two posts is trying to make assumptions about us

I made an account to show my disapproval for the reissues and my disgust for people who didn't notice that a rare vinyl market was getting shat all over. I've seen people spend a lot of money on these records over the years and have admired their fondness for Elliott's ORIGINAL vinyl records. Like myself, when it came to the music, they had to have nothing but the utmost quality. The original. Not a replica. Not the squire for a strat. Not the epiphone for the the gibson. I admired their pledge. Most of you probably wouldn't understand.

[king for a day]

Oh, don't you worry. I sold my MINT figure 8 as soon as I heard about the reissues. $185 Huh, people still paying a good price surprisingly. I paid $140 a year ago. Keeping my MINT Roman Candle LP on Domino tho. Biatch. They wont be reissuing that.

Well, we'll all be getting our MINT copies of 'Figure 8' and 'xo' in a few months too. And don't bet against Domino not reissuing 'Roman Candle' either!

Really, you shouldn't sound so bitter, 'tis the season to be jolly etc.

[XXX]

vinyl collecting is all about having something to laud over others
75%laudfactor 20%hairbrainedincorrectexplainationsofwhyvinylsoundsbetter5%napoleoncomplex
truth
btw
this is only true in 95% of all cases
i would have to re-work out the percentages for the other 5%

[XXX]

when women collect vinyl,
you can pretty safely attribute it to
50% penis envy
50% hairbrain
100% holy spirit

it all makes perfect sense if you look at it from the right glasses
...my...glasses

[XXX]

one of my favorite things to quote RANDOMLY (OUT OF CONTExt TOO!!) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=WI45kamy83A)

[king for a day]

A lot of my records are reissues and yet I STILL manage to sleep at night. How does THAT work?!?

I guess those with the ORIGINALS can take comfort in the fact that they are superior beings to us. Meanwhile, us scumbags who are going to buy the reissues must bow our heads in shame every day for the rest of our sorry little 2nd pressing lives.

[XXX]

the reason why you are so happy and well adjusted is that you either
1. have a penis
2. are satisfied with the size of your penis
3. are 100% holy spirit

the trinity may not be logical per say.... but it makes perfect sense

[jinp6301]

vinyl collecting is all about having something to laud over others
75%laudfactor 20%hairbrainedincorrectexplainationsofwhyvinylsoundsbetter5%napoleoncomplex
truth
btw
this is only true in 95% of all cases
i would have to re-work out the percentages for the other 5%
jin, youre awesome

[baz]

there's some of the reissues already for sale on ebay. 'to be posted on the release date.' ugh.

[lisa]

I made an account to show my disapproval for the reissues and my disgust for people who didn't notice that a rare vinyl market was getting shat all over. I've seen people spend a lot of money on these records over the years and have admired their fondness for Elliott's ORIGINAL vinyl records. Like myself, when it came to the music, they had to have nothing but the utmost quality. The original. Not a replica. Not the squire for a strat. Not the epiphone for the the gibson. I admired their pledge. Most of you probably wouldn't understand.
umm if you so badly believe in owning the true original vinyl why the fuck did you go and sell it as soon as you heard they were reissuing? You dont want the vinyl you want the money. I bet youre not even an elliott fan just some rare vinyl collector out to make cash. youre kinda pathetic. ohh no they made it possible for people to own the record who dont have thousands of dollars of expendable income! Wow, what horrible bastards!

Im sorry you didnt get to profit off elliotts vinyl more, but uhh, what a stupid thing to get mad about. Oh and no one thought theyd reissue xo and figure 8 and they did, so dont be so sure about roman candle, its all there is left and clearly there is a market for it especially seeing his popularity after his death, so if you wanna make the big money which appears to be your only issue, to quote the man "better sell it while you can"

[McCoy]

I made an account to act like a tool.

Fixed.

[CombatWombat]

umm if you so badly believe in owning the true original vinyl why the fuck did you go and sell it as soon as you heard they were reissuing? You dont want the vinyl you want the money. I bet youre not even an elliott fan just some rare vinyl collector out to make cash. youre kinda pathetic. ohh no they made it possible for people to own the record who dont have thousands of dollars of expendable income! Wow, what horrible bastards!

Im sorry you didnt get to profit off elliotts vinyl more, but uhh, what a stupid thing to get mad about. Oh and no one thought theyd reissue xo and figure 8 and they did, so dont be so sure about roman candle, its all there is left and clearly there is a market for it especially seeing his popularity after his death, so if you wanna make the big money which appears to be your only issue, to quote the man "better sell it while you can"

Yes! Nice retort! :yes:

[facepaint87]

umm if you so badly believe in owning the true original vinyl why the fuck did you go and sell it as soon as you heard they were reissuing? You dont want the vinyl you want the money. I bet youre not even an elliott fan just some rare vinyl collector out to make cash. youre kinda pathetic. ohh no they made it possible for people to own the record who dont have thousands of dollars of expendable income! Wow, what horrible bastards!

Im sorry you didnt get to profit off elliotts vinyl more, but uhh, what a stupid thing to get mad about. Oh and no one thought theyd reissue xo and figure 8 and they did, so dont be so sure about roman candle, its all there is left and clearly there is a market for it especially seeing his popularity after his death, so if you wanna make the big money which appears to be your only issue, to quote the man "better sell it while you can"

I did want to keep the vinyl. I seriously never wanted to sell it. It was one of my favorite records. But I also didn't want to lose bunch of money on my investment. The younger elliott vinyl lovers don't care if its original or not for some reason, unlike the older collectors who pay top dollar for originals. I love elliot smith. I even spell his name right. It has one ( t) and people usually use two ( tt ). What a bunch or retards. I remember someone mentioning the built to spill originals going down from $50-60 and after the limited edition reissues to like $20. This was very true as I followed closely the auctions. The elliott vinyl market is pretty similar to the built to spill vinyl market so i didn't want to lose a bunch of money. Everyone would do the same thing. SELL THEIR FUCKING RECORDS! By the way, Elliott was talking about shitty bands, not rare vinyl collectors. All you elliott music is pirated and you know it.

[jinp6301]

I did want to keep the vinyl. I seriously never wanted to sell it. It was one of my favorite records. But I also didn't want to lose bunch of money on my investment. The younger elliott vinyl lovers don't care if its original or not for some reason, unlike the older collectors who pay top dollar for originals. I love elliot smith. I even spell his name right. It has one ( t) and people usually use two ( tt ). What a bunch or retards. I remember someone mentioning the built to spill originals going down from $50-60 and after the limited edition reissues to like $20. This was very true as I followed closely the auctions. The elliott vinyl market is pretty similar to the built to spill vinyl market so i didn't want to lose a bunch of money. Everyone would do the same thing. SELL THEIR FUCKING RECORDS! By the way, Elliott was talking about shitty bands, not rare vinyl collectors. All you elliott music is pirated and you know it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAAHAHAH

oh you

[lisa]

I did want to keep the vinyl. I seriously never wanted to sell it. It was one of my favorite records. But I also didn't want to lose bunch of money on my investment. The younger elliott vinyl lovers don't care if its original or not for some reason, unlike the older collectors who pay top dollar for originals. I love elliot smith. I even spell his name right. It has one ( t) and people usually use two ( tt ). What a bunch or retards. I remember someone mentioning the built to spill originals going down from $50-60 and after the limited edition reissues to like $20. This was very true as I followed closely the auctions. The elliott vinyl market is pretty similar to the built to spill vinyl market so i didn't want to lose a bunch of money. Everyone would do the same thing. SELL THEIR FUCKING RECORDS! By the way, Elliott was talking about shitty bands, not rare vinyl collectors. All you elliott music is pirated and you know it.
you are a fool, and ur post doesnt even make sense, you say elliotts name is spelled with one t (which it is not.. lol look at where you are tard) and then you spell it with 2 tts.

you sold your vinyl and made your money. please fuck off. no one cares.

p.s. i own every es album on cd, and soon will also own all the vinyls! yay.

[mobygrape]

a stupid vinyl tangent here , what if you took every christmas record ever recorded , just one copy of each title , how many miles past pluto would they stack , jeeze louise there are more christmas records in
this world than people , i think sometimes

[TheKeenGuy]

II love elliot smith. I even spell his name right. It has one ( t) and people usually use two ( tt ). What a bunch or retards.
And this is where we learn that facepaint87 is an alias, since this person would otherwise be too stupid to live.

[blunderful]

Most of you probably wouldn't understand.

5 posts and still making assumptions...

[Capt Argo]

Sweet, my vinyl collection will be complete after all...

[king for a day]

so why complain that a lot more people now have the chance to experience elliott on vinyl (even if it is not as perfect as the original. which i dunno, vinyl dudes clear that one up?)

From my experience it makes no difference whether vinyl is old or new. It depends on how well they are kept, how well they are pressed in the first place, how decent your record players is, how decent your amp is…

I've got albums pressed onto 180gram vinyl and some of them sound worse than their thinner counterparts. Part of vinyl's charm is the odd crackle and imperfection, unlike the clinical nature of the CD.

I'm sure I can speak for a lot of people here by saying that I can't wait to finally own 'Figure 8' and 'xo' on vinyl, even if it's a reissue and not the sacred Bongload 1st pressings. We're Elliott fans, we can't afford to pay $100+ for a record (unless Elliott signed it of course) so why are there some people who consider these reissues to be morally on par with the holocaust?

Share the love dammit

[jinp6301]

I wonder if someone (larry crane?) can answer the question of whos remastering the albums for vinyl?

[runnersdialzero]

I made an account to show my disapproval for the reissues and my disgust for people who didn't notice that a rare vinyl market was getting shat all over. I've seen people spend a lot of money on these records over the years and have admired their fondness for Elliott's ORIGINAL vinyl records. Like myself, when it came to the music, they had to have nothing but the utmost quality. The original. Not a replica. Not the squire for a strat. Not the epiphone for the the gibson. I admired their pledge. Most of you probably wouldn't understand.

Oh for fuck's sake, are you serious? Is this a joke and we're all missing it?

Here's the deal: The first pressings, which you had until your dumbass sold it, are still worth money and other collectors will recognize this. It will be worth more than the newer pressing and any other newer pressings that may come along. If you knew anything about being a collector, you'd know this, because that's how it works. Meanwhile, these kids get to finally have these albums on vinyl. Care is being taken so the quality is excellent and is just as good as any other vinyl edition.

You win, everybody else wins. But you, up on your pulpit about owning stuff and money, SOLD your copy. So I guess you'll just have to settle for a "replica" which is of the same sound quality as the original. Boo fucking hoo.

At that: What the fuck are you going on about "replicas" for? Your vinyl copies are a replica. Replica = copy. And again, care is being taken so that the quality is just as good as any other edition. So unless you're sitting there listening to the master tapes for Figure 8, then I don't want to hear your bullshit about replicas.

You seem to have this childish "MINE MINE MINE" attitude towards this stuff and in the end you're just looking like a total jackass. You keep digging the hole deeper with each new post, repeatedly showing that you don't know what in the hell you're talking about. The best part is, you really didn't have any excuse to be pissed until you sold your copy because you assumed it was about to go way down in value. And now who's to blame?

[king for a day]

Oh for fuck's sake, are you serious? Is this a joke and we're all missing it?

Here's the deal: The first pressings, which you had until your dumbass sold it, are still worth money and other collectors will recognize this.


I wouldn't call facepaint87 a 'collector' as that would imply that he/she (most likely he) actually cares and cherishes their 'collection'. They definitely would NOT sell it, that's for sure.

No, facepaint is merely an investor and is pissed off because they have lost out on a pointless little profit.

So, hurrah for the reissues, so us Elliott fans and 'collectors' of his wonderful art can now own these wonderful records.

Justice prevails.

[facepaint87]

Oh for fuck's sake, are you serious? Is this a joke and we're all missing it?

Here's the deal: The first pressings, which you had until your dumbass sold it, are still worth money and other collectors will recognize this. It will be worth more than the newer pressing and any other newer pressings that may come along. If you knew anything about being a collector, you'd know this, because that's how it works. Meanwhile, these kids get to finally have these albums on vinyl. Care is being taken so the quality is excellent and is just as good as any other vinyl edition.

You win, everybody else wins. But you, up on your pulpit about owning stuff and money, SOLD your copy. So I guess you'll just have to settle for a "replica" which is of the same sound quality as the original. Boo fucking hoo.

At that: What the fuck are you going on about "replicas" for? Your vinyl copies are a replica. Replica = copy. And again, care is being taken so that the quality is just as good as any other edition. So unless you're sitting there listening to the master tapes for Figure 8, then I don't want to hear your bullshit about replicas.

You seem to have this childish "MINE MINE MINE" attitude towards this stuff and in the end you're just looking like a total jackass. You keep digging the hole deeper with each new post, repeatedly showing that you don't know what in the hell you're talking about. The best part is, you really didn't have any excuse to be pissed until you sold your copy because you assumed it was about to go way down in value. And now who's to blame?

Do yourself a favor and watch ebay auctions for the figure 8 and xo bongload originals from now untill the reissue are being sold. I can guarantee you that you will see bongloads go from $150-$250 to around $50-$100(probably less). If you see one go for over $150 today, well then that person who bought it obviously doesn't know about the reissues. These aren't like Beatles albums were the originals go for 25x what the originals sell for. It's a completely different market consisting of much younger collectors who really don't care if they have the originals or not. They don't have the money to be picky. (And YES, I am 20 years old, but I DO have the money to be picky so I don't consider myself part of the market we are discussing to address another post.) It's a completely different market. If you knew anything about buying or selling (or basic economics) you would know that. If I ever need a lesson on taking acid and fucking and a phish concert maybe I could ask for a lesson from you, otherwise just keep your vinyl collecting lessons to yourself. Look at the Built to Spill originals then reissue that followed and you'd have the same fucking story. I enjoy listening elliott's music. But probably not nearly as much as you guys do tho. I prefer artist who aren't fucking junkies, who rely on their dope to help them write their songs. -Love Ben

[facepaint87]

5 posts and still making assumptions...

6 posts and still sucking cock for nothing or next to nothing.

[lisa]

Do yourself a favor and watch ebay auctions for the figure 8 and xo bongload originals from now untill the reissue are being sold. I can guarantee you that you will see bongloads go from $150-$250 to around $50-$100(probably less). If you see one go for over $150 today, well then that person who bought it obviously doesn't know about the reissues. These aren't like Beatles albums were the originals go for 25x what the originals sell for. It's a completely different market consisting of much younger collectors who really don't care if they have the originals or not. They don't have the money to be picky.

(And YES, I am 20 years old, but I DO have the money to be picky)

I enjoy listening elliott's music. But probably not nearly as much as you guys do tho. I prefer artist who aren't fucking junkies, who rely on their dope to help them write their songs. -Love Ben
so you admit that youre pissed cause youre not making as big a profit. merry christmas to you too.

you dont enjoy listening to junkies but you enjoy making a profit off their work. you should be sooo very proud of yourself. you take rare albums and sucker real fans into giving you their money, of which you did nothing to earn but own because youre a product of rich parents. clearly you are the definition of a tool, and your entire existence is pointless.

[Zach Hillman]

Do yourself a favor and watch ebay auctions for the figure 8 and xo bongload originals from now untill the reissue are being sold. I can guarantee you that you will see bongloads go from $150-$250 to around $50-$100(probably less). If you see one go for over $150 today, well then that person who bought it obviously doesn't know about the reissues. These aren't like Beatles albums were the originals go for 25x what the originals sell for. It's a completely different market consisting of much younger collectors who really don't care if they have the originals or not. They don't have the money to be picky. (And YES, I am 20 years old, but I DO have the money to be picky so I don't consider myself part of the market we are discussing to address another post.) It's a completely different market. If you knew anything about buying or selling (or basic economics) you would know that. If I ever need a lesson on taking acid and fucking and a phish concert maybe I could ask for a lesson from you, otherwise just keep your vinyl collecting lessons to yourself. Look at the Built to Spill originals then reissue that followed and you'd have the same fucking story. I enjoy listening elliott's music. But probably not nearly as much as you guys do tho. I prefer artist who aren't fucking junkies, who rely on their dope to help them write their songs. -Love Ben


Wow, what a hateful, spiteful, brat of a motherfucker. Alright, so you claim to like his music, and then later in the same sentence you call him a fucking junkie...Wow. What a truly honest and genuine person you are. You're the type of guy who, if you met Elliott, you'd be kissing his ass and asking for autographs. You're the worst kind of person there is, because you base your opinions on anger and self gratification. And then, when someone rightfully calls you out on it, you assume they take acid, have sex (which, last I checked, isn't a bad thing), and that they listen to Phish. Well, all I've seen you prove yourself to be on here is an asshole, and a moneyhungry asshole at that. You sir, are a whore. And I say this not in the way you say it, out of spite and some childish comeback, but in mere truth of the behavior you have displayed. And for that matter, where's your fucking music man? Where's your records? How can you judge someone, whether they use drugs to write or not? You have absolutely no knowledge of the topic. Stop talking out of turn and just keep your opinions in your head or something. By that rational, you're saying you have a problem with The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Jimi Hendrix, Ray Charles, and pretty much every other musician who used to drugs while writing music, simply because they did? You are making statements that you can't take back my friend. I suggest you think about the things you say before you do, because you're losing ground, and fast.

And what makes it even more fucking ironic and pathetic, is that you're preaching about making money off a record in which alot of the songs are about the downfalls of money and fame and the like. You're the biggest fake I've ever seen.

I say you take all your money, and buy yourself a clue. You see, I can wake up tomorrow and forget all about this situation. But you, you're always going to be an asshole.

Love Zach.

[bradleybee]

i have to say that i'm really suprised at the amount of people here that actually have turntables. or are you guys buying this so you can frame it on your wall, because thats what i'll probably do

You can get a brand-new portable turntable for $100. Also, I just saw an ad at the top of a sweetaddy page for a USB turntable for $150. They may not be the best quality players, but it is a pretty reasonable price for a 1st turntable... Take the plunge!!!

[nickman]

You can get a brand-new portable turntable for $100. Also, I just saw an ad at the top of a sweetaddy page for a USB turntable for $150. They may not be the best quality players, but it is a pretty reasonable price for a 1st turntable... Take the plunge!!!

those sub $100 portable players are definitely not the best, and definitely not even 'good' either. if you're going to spend a good amount of money on vinyl, then save up and buy a decent record player. your records and your ears will thank you.

[bradleybee]

those sub $100 portable players are definitely not the best, and definitely not even 'good' either. if you're going to spend a good amount of money on vinyl, then save up and buy a decent record player. your records and your ears will thank you.

This is true. I was recently looking at some turntables, and an anti-skate, weight-adjustable tonearm is not available on some of the cheaper turntables. I would consider this feature a necessity on a good, home-stereo turntable.

...but portable turntables are cool too :B

[nickman]

not to mention most of the cheap portable ones have plastic needles too. ugh.

[Zach Hillman]

I'm not to picky with turntables. Go to any thrift store and you can find one that works.

[jinp6301]

I'm not to picky with turntables. Go to any thrift store and you can find one that works.
then whats the point of going vinyl?

[Zach Hillman]

I like them.

[jinp6301]

I like them.
good answer

[Zach Hillman]

It's logical.

[McCoy]

It's actually emotional.

[baz]

I've been looking around for figure 8 and xo for a while now, so I guess I'll have to settle for reissues.:oh: figure 8 was given to me for christmas.

plus my brother bought me new moon and faboth, 'cos they're still easy.


just xo left, then. :)



awesome.

[king for a day]

Do yourself a favor and watch ebay auctions for the figure 8 and xo bongload originals from now untill the reissue are being sold. I can guarantee you that you will see bongloads go from $150-$250 to around $50-$100(probably less). If you see one go for over $150 today, well then that person who bought it obviously doesn't know about the reissues. These aren't like Beatles albums were the originals go for 25x what the originals sell for. It's a completely different market consisting of much younger collectors who really don't care if they have the originals or not. They don't have the money to be picky. (And YES, I am 20 years old, but I DO have the money to be picky so I don't consider myself part of the market we are discussing to address another post.) It's a completely different market. If you knew anything about buying or selling (or basic economics) you would know that. If I ever need a lesson on taking acid and fucking and a phish concert maybe I could ask for a lesson from you, otherwise just keep your vinyl collecting lessons to yourself. Look at the Built to Spill originals then reissue that followed and you'd have the same fucking story. I enjoy listening elliott's music. But probably not nearly as much as you guys do tho. I prefer artist who aren't fucking junkies, who rely on their dope to help them write their songs. -Love Ben

The fact that facepaint typed such a bitter post on Christmas day says a lot about him than it does about anyone else. Sad.

[Zach Hillman]

I didn't even realize that.

[either.or.]

just here to bitch about the fact that i got a figure 8 reissue today and am thorougly disappointed.

son of sam skips ever 3.5 seconds.
somebody i used to know is fine all the way through.
junk bond trader - see son of sam.
everything reminds me of her - see somebody i used to know.


i didn't even bother listening to the rest. i don't like hearing elliott's voice skipping. :ok:





:guns: D: :burn: :hate:

[thedoublehelix]

I bought the XO reissue and was thoroughly delighted. It did sound "warm" like everyone always says vinyl does (this is my first vinyl purchase).

To either.or - perhaps you were dancing, and that's why it was skipping? Maybe it's just your turntable.

[nowlinmd]

perhaps you were dancing, and that's why it was skipping?

:lol:

If we could get a FLAC vinyl rip I would be so happy.
I don't have the equipment to do it myself.